"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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get number and then date?

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hey guys, i have no problems getting numbers from random girls. but i feel like to setup a date i should build up more rapor with them. like right now i got this girls number, and im about to call her and try and setup a date. is this what all you guys do? the interaction was probably 5 minutes long, and most number-closing interactions are that fast for me. im just gonna start setting the date the time of but just wondering what your guys input is before i say **** it and give her a call in a few mins
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How long have you had her number?
 

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got it last night..i was kinda drunk she was sober...basically i just went up to her and said:

"hey excuse me, did it hurt?"

"what?"

"uhh when you fell from heaven of course"

*haha* "why do you think i fell from heaven?"

"how could i not think that? im just telling the truth right now"

*small talk obviously hitting on her*

"is this just a drunken thing or are you serious?"

"no, im being serious."

"ok then take my number down and give me a call"

"ok put it in my phone"
 

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Boy,I know that I'm going to take a lot of flack for this,but here goes anyway.
I wouldn't call her tonight. That's just me. I wouldn't call the next day. I would wait until tomorrow to give her a call. And for pete's sake man,stop drinking long enough to have a sober conversation with her when you do call.

A lot of women have a tendency to flake on guys when trying to set up a date. I don't think that there is a 100% full proof way to avoid this,but there are some things you can do to lessen her flake chances.

First,when you call her,try to stir up her emotions before you ask her out. You'll have a better chance of her saying yes to a date with you if she's experiencing some emotion when you ask her.

Another thing you should do is when you ask her out,instead of saying,"Do you wanna go out sometime?",say something that gives her the impression that you ALREADY had plans to do something,and since you were going to be doing it anyway,you're just inviting her to come along.
Say something like,"Hey,I'm going to the mall (or whatever) on Thursday,but I'm only going to be up there for an hour. Come up there and walk around with me,I mean,I could use a woman's opinion anyway".

This let's her know that you have a life,that you have things going on,and although you are busy,you might be willing to find time for her somewhere in your busy schedule. Do this,and it'll make you seem more interesting to her.
 

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haha wow right when i was about to call her you post this. i was gonna use the same joke/pickup line (hmm, maybe another corny but cute one ill have to decide) right when she answered the phone to bring back the memory. then i was gonna say somethin like "so how about that dinner date you promised me?" and shell be like "i dont recall promising that" and i was just gonna spin it off like "oh well i just assumed you wanted to..so thursday?"

btw i was already finished drinking this was just out on the street after sunday night football games (GO CHARGERS@!!!!)

hmm..wait a few days.....hmmmmmm i jsut think i didnt leave a big enough lasting impression for her to wait a few days, thats why iw as just gonna say **** it and call her up now
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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That's actually not a bad idea. However,I'd still stir up her emotions FIRST,then I'd try your dinner date plan. Also, I didn't say to wait a few days,I just wouldn't call her the very next day after getting her number.
I'd call her tomorrow,but hey,it's your call man.
 

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pua1989 said:
thanks for the insight brother

Hey,that's what we're here for. Peace man.
 

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do you use that heaven line all the time? i'm surprised it worked lol. i wouldn't use that man sounds corny.
 

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im tellin you man, on the right girls (after a while you get a feel for who they are) cheesy pickup lines work awesome. i mean, what is so bad about it? lately my game has been blatant hitting on them. right off the bat if i use a corny pickup line like that, they know im trying to hit on them. not only that, if used with the right tone (playful, kinda joking, but serious) it is a compliment ("you are an angel") and they get flattered. i dont know, works great for me. number getting isnt the hard part, its executing for me. ill let you guys know what she says today when i call her back. (i would have called her lst night but her phone was going straight to voicemail so it was prolly off or outta batteries or somethin)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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