jglide123
Don Juan
Conventional wisdom suggests that women are less guarded in gay clubs as opposed to straight clubs. What do you guys think? Anyone have any personal experience/stories?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Spinning Spinning said:^^
That last comment is just stupid.
I used to hit up this gay club called the Pleasuredome in Melbourne back in the late 90s. Me and my mates were pretty much the only straight guys other than your token steroidhead/gangsters and the women were far nicer and open to being approached. The joint was full of strippers too, just as many hot birds as gays. We used to clean up! Not sure how it works now but I'd give it a go for sure.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
My wisdom suggests that women hanging out in a gay club are there because they don't want men to be trying to pick them up that night.jglide123 said:Conventional wisdom suggests that women are less guarded in gay clubs as opposed to straight clubs. What do you guys think?
Good points. I'm thinking about going out to one tonight just to change it up a bit.Spinning Spinning said:Or.....they have a lot of gay friends.....or......they don't like a particular type of guy hitting on them. But your comments do have merit I agree.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.