"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Game is a neccesary byproduct of equality

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I read an awesome post on Game that was linked to Colossus's signature. It is titled "What is Game". Check it out.

I was lamenting to my friends the need for Game. I was telling them how much of a burden it is to have to learn and constantly apply this skillset. I told them that its not fair and that we need to return to the pre 1970's era when game was not necessary. I told them that we need to reverse the laws that have empowered women so much that they can treat us as disposable. This is a sentiment shared by many posters on SoSuave.

My friends introduced me to a different perspective. They look at the state of affairs as a necessary consequence of liberty. They explain that if you look at all men as equal then this should apply to women. If women are equal to men, then they should be treated as men. The 2 main forces that kept women in check were lack of employment and a societal stigma against promiscuity and overt hypergamy. My friends state that this is unequal.They state the women should have full access to the workforce and full access to the sexual liberties that men enjoy (no slut stigma).

I could not disagree even though i wanted to disagree. If we are truly an equal nation, then we as men can not be pissed off when women exhibit masculine behaviors. Or exhibit behaviors that are unsatisfactory becuz these behaviors are just an unfortunate consequence of gender equality.
If we want an truly equal society then we are just going to have to put up with women becoming less feminine and adapt our game to it.

Even though the legal pendulum has swung too far towards the favoring of women, we should not return to the era of the 1960's. This was an era of exclusion from the workforce and stigma. To my friends exclusion and stigma are the opposite of liberty and equality.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Pandora said:
Even though the legal pendulum has swung too far towards the favoring of women, we should not return to the era of the 1960's. This was an era of exclusion from the workforce and stigma. To my friends exclusion and stigma are the opposite of liberty and equality.
This is the fundamental problem. As long as women are on financially equal footing as men, they are going to have the advantage in the dating game.

Here's the link to the article in Colossus' sig, but the way:
http://jaqenhghar.blogspot.com/

I like what the article has to say about PUA game. It helps explain why I have never found the philosophy behind it to be fully satisfying:

"Some of it works, most of it is disingenuous, and it really does nothing to promote masculine growth and sustainable relationship skills other than giving a man more sexual experience. It is falling out of favor with much of the manosphere, and while we can learn a lot from PUA tactics, it is just an adaptation to a pro-female world, not a permanent solution for most men and for intersexual relations as a whole."

Closer to my heart is Dating Game:

"There is some overlap with PUA game and Dating game, but Dating game is more focused on filtering, selection, and coming out on top in anything beyond a one night stand. Dating game has more of a focus on self-improvement and positive masculinity rather than manipulation".

I've always said that the most inspiring part of this site are the self improvement aspects.
 

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Dear Pandora,
This is sheer undiluted brilliance...Partner this with his 65 Dating tips and you have the very Quintessence of the current Dating Game!
 

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zekko said:
This is the fundamental problem. As long as women are on financially equal footing as men, they are going to have the advantage in the dating game.

Here's the link to the article in Colossus' sig, but the way:
http://jaqenhghar.blogspot.com/

I like what the article has to say about PUA game. It helps explain why I have never found the philosophy behind it to be fully satisfying:

"Some of it works, most of it is disingenuous, and it really does nothing to promote masculine growth and sustainable relationship skills other than giving a man more sexual experience. It is falling out of favor with much of the manosphere, and while we can learn a lot from PUA tactics, it is just an adaptation to a pro-female world, not a permanent solution for most men and for intersexual relations as a whole."

Closer to my heart is Dating Game:

"There is some overlap with PUA game and Dating game, but Dating game is more focused on filtering, selection, and coming out on top in anything beyond a one night stand. Dating game has more of a focus on self-improvement and positive masculinity rather than manipulation".

I've always said that the most inspiring part of this site are the self improvement aspects.
Zekko i agree. I feel like the DJ Bible is a little outdated. It focuses more on PUA tatics and not self improvement. The self improvement part of this site is very inspiring.
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Pandora,
This is sheer undiluted brilliance...Partner this with his 65 Dating tips and you have the very Quintessence of the current Dating Game!
Lol i agree man. The 65 dating tips and that blog post should replace the DJ Bible to a certain degree.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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