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Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Fvcking pissed at this dumb kunt
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Pimp-sicle
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I agree with some of the advice here, BUT this still proves its actions over words.
Everyone here preaches that if a girl counter-offer's then that means she has interest. I would agree with that to a degree, but the bottom line factor is until she shows up for the date, until she gets naked with you etc, that is the only way you can confirm interest.
This chick has low interest. Would she be at the mall 10-20 mins before your date if she had high interest? Of course not.
Would she initial contact the day before if she couldn't make the original date ESPECIALLY if it was because of surgery?!!! LOL --- I can't believe you bought that excuse btw, unless she was saying someone else was getting surgery.
When she initially text you back and said she was still at the mall, I would've gone ghost on her and made her wonder.
You chased too hard and showed way too much tolerance for her shiatty behavior towards you, don't do that.
I'd put her on the back burner and focus on other girls. If she comes back around, its up to you if you want to try one more time to get together with her.
Like others have said spinning plates isn't for the weak, don't take it personally, but don't lose your self respect either.
PIMP
Everyone here preaches that if a girl counter-offer's then that means she has interest. I would agree with that to a degree, but the bottom line factor is until she shows up for the date, until she gets naked with you etc, that is the only way you can confirm interest.
This chick has low interest. Would she be at the mall 10-20 mins before your date if she had high interest? Of course not.
Would she initial contact the day before if she couldn't make the original date ESPECIALLY if it was because of surgery?!!! LOL --- I can't believe you bought that excuse btw, unless she was saying someone else was getting surgery.
When she initially text you back and said she was still at the mall, I would've gone ghost on her and made her wonder.
You chased too hard and showed way too much tolerance for her shiatty behavior towards you, don't do that.
I'd put her on the back burner and focus on other girls. If she comes back around, its up to you if you want to try one more time to get together with her.
Like others have said spinning plates isn't for the weak, don't take it personally, but don't lose your self respect either.
PIMP
Packers2010
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so they lie about everything?DragonBlood said:
buzzin_frog
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You broke one of Buzzin' Frog's most important rules of dating.....and that is......
Never try to accommodate your date.....because most likely, you will have a flake
You are the man....you should set the tone and the terms for the date....never allow a woman to do that for you!!
You allowed her to flip the script by changing the date to her terms....in which you certainly did....she saw that you were willing to do anything to have a date with her....you were desperate, then acted hasty because you wanted the date.....so you changed your plans to accommodate her needs.....you should never do that for any woman...you will end up getting burned!!
When a chick has high interest in you......she won't lose that interest in you......so there is no need to lose your frame and give into her needs/wants....keeping your frame is what you need to do, because her interest will still be there, if there is any interest at all.
When a girl tries to change the arrangements of the date by setting it to her terms.....you should not accept those terms...decline her offer and set up YOUR date for another time.....because this won't be your date anymore, it will be HER'S...because you accepted her terms.....so there is a high chance that she will flake...there is also a chance that she doesn't have much interest in you....chicks will do this so they can have a excuse to flake!!
You had your date set up.....she gave you an excuse for "surgery" to not have the date....she changed the plans of the date...you accommodated her by changing your date to fit her needs....you went through with it accepting her terms.....she had a excuse waiting that she was at the mall with a friend......that was her excuse that she couldn't meet you....as a result you had no date....you got flaked on!!
When these chicks try to change your date ......don't be hasty and accept their terms....make them wait and accept your terms on the day you want....don't give in to their needs/wants...show them that you are a busy guy and that you have things going for you...don't make yourself available to her by catering to her wishes!!
you should be the man with the plan.....so stick to your plan....set up YOUR date on the day YOU want....not HER date for the place SHE is currently at....decline her offer for HER date...set up another date for the day/place YOU want later....because you are The Man....not the beta giving in to her needs!!
you should know after that if this chick has any interest in you....if not, then you just screened out a flake without having to go through all her bvllsh!t
whenever you date, you are bound to get a flake now and then....but never give in to her needs/wants by accommodating her!!
Set your date.......never accept her date.... high interest won't be lost if you don't go out that date....set it up for another day...the interest will still be there....
interest will be lost if you become a desperate beta caving into a chick's wants!!
Don't do that!!
Be The Man with The Plan!!
Never try to accommodate your date.....because most likely, you will have a flake
You are the man....you should set the tone and the terms for the date....never allow a woman to do that for you!!
You allowed her to flip the script by changing the date to her terms....in which you certainly did....she saw that you were willing to do anything to have a date with her....you were desperate, then acted hasty because you wanted the date.....so you changed your plans to accommodate her needs.....you should never do that for any woman...you will end up getting burned!!
When a chick has high interest in you......she won't lose that interest in you......so there is no need to lose your frame and give into her needs/wants....keeping your frame is what you need to do, because her interest will still be there, if there is any interest at all.
When a girl tries to change the arrangements of the date by setting it to her terms.....you should not accept those terms...decline her offer and set up YOUR date for another time.....because this won't be your date anymore, it will be HER'S...because you accepted her terms.....so there is a high chance that she will flake...there is also a chance that she doesn't have much interest in you....chicks will do this so they can have a excuse to flake!!
You had your date set up.....she gave you an excuse for "surgery" to not have the date....she changed the plans of the date...you accommodated her by changing your date to fit her needs....you went through with it accepting her terms.....she had a excuse waiting that she was at the mall with a friend......that was her excuse that she couldn't meet you....as a result you had no date....you got flaked on!!
When these chicks try to change your date ......don't be hasty and accept their terms....make them wait and accept your terms on the day you want....don't give in to their needs/wants...show them that you are a busy guy and that you have things going for you...don't make yourself available to her by catering to her wishes!!
you should be the man with the plan.....so stick to your plan....set up YOUR date on the day YOU want....not HER date for the place SHE is currently at....decline her offer for HER date...set up another date for the day/place YOU want later....because you are The Man....not the beta giving in to her needs!!
you should know after that if this chick has any interest in you....if not, then you just screened out a flake without having to go through all her bvllsh!t
whenever you date, you are bound to get a flake now and then....but never give in to her needs/wants by accommodating her!!
Set your date.......never accept her date.... high interest won't be lost if you don't go out that date....set it up for another day...the interest will still be there....
interest will be lost if you become a desperate beta caving into a chick's wants!!
Don't do that!!
Be The Man with The Plan!!
love this idea. I'm gonna try it soon.PlayHer Man said:Typical.
I doubt any DJ here hasn't experienced this sh!t. When a girl you're really attracted to pulls this sh!t its so infuriating that you want to rip your hair out. I experienced this for the last time about two years ago (I decided it was the last time). After that episode of flakery, I decided to set up a "system" to protect myself from this sh!t.
I personally think its genius and you men should consider trying it (though its dishonest).
HERE IS WHAT I DO:
Note: This is only for first dates (when b!tches flake the most)
1. Set up a time and place to meet her. Don't contact her until 30 minutes before you have to meet to make sure the date is still on. What her response is doesn't matter as long as its not to cancel.
2. Call her 10 minutes after you were supposed to arrive to ask her where she is. She will either be there waiting for you or not there yet.
- If she is waiting for you.. give her a BS excuse and say you're running late.
- If she is not there yet, request an ETA. Then wait for her to call and say she has arrived before you even leave where you are. Once she has arrive say you are running late.
The entire point of this system is to not get off your a*s to meet a girl until she is at the place you are supposed to meet her. Its easier to make up a BS excuse for being late than to waste your time showing up and getting flaked on.
So there you have it men: PlayHer Man's "anti-flake" system. Enjoy..
chics flake all the time. I never...ever....ever....set up a first date doing something that I don't already want to be doing. I always scope my week out and find an event I'd like to be at anyway so if she flakes, i'm still being productive and will most likely be around some people I know. And if she doesn't, well she sees me being around people I know and it gives me immediate social proof.
This only works if you know a lot of people....but all the more reason to build a larger social network.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
cordoncordon
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Ahhhh yes. Was this a PoF or online chick? Man I don't miss those days. Stories like these really make you appreciate when you find a truly good one.
I remember one chick from PoF confirmed that day at xx time. I drove down 20 minutes or so to her area, text to say I'm close, and she says, like yours, that she is at the mall and can we reschedule? This was after confirming a couple hours earlier. Of course she didn't have the common courtesy to tell me earlier. Kunt. Needless to say I told her to f off and turned around and went home.
Another time I had something lined up with a girl at a bar, another PoF girl. Confirmed that day. I get to the bar, order a drink, text her Im there. 15 minutes go by and nothing. 20 minutes and I call. No answer. So I just leave and she never once contacted me. It was at that point that I just gave up on online dating all together.
As for your girl OP. Forget her. Move on. Never contact her again unless she shows up at your door naked. Girls like this deserve no time and energy on your part. Be happy you found out now.
And as I said, horror stories like these really make you realize how lucky a guy is to find a good one. It's a 1 in 1000 shot these days.
Sad.
I remember one chick from PoF confirmed that day at xx time. I drove down 20 minutes or so to her area, text to say I'm close, and she says, like yours, that she is at the mall and can we reschedule? This was after confirming a couple hours earlier. Of course she didn't have the common courtesy to tell me earlier. Kunt. Needless to say I told her to f off and turned around and went home.
Another time I had something lined up with a girl at a bar, another PoF girl. Confirmed that day. I get to the bar, order a drink, text her Im there. 15 minutes go by and nothing. 20 minutes and I call. No answer. So I just leave and she never once contacted me. It was at that point that I just gave up on online dating all together.
As for your girl OP. Forget her. Move on. Never contact her again unless she shows up at your door naked. Girls like this deserve no time and energy on your part. Be happy you found out now.
And as I said, horror stories like these really make you realize how lucky a guy is to find a good one. It's a 1 in 1000 shot these days.
Sad.