"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Fvck Getting numbers

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Originally posted by freedom_fighter777
After getting hundreds of phone numbers....
Why are they giving you their numbers - are you threatening them and giving them an ultimatum with a knife at their throats?? If no positive responses after "hundreds" of numbers then I say you need to qualify them without a knife to their throats and let them respond solely on their own interest!!!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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SexPDX

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FreedomFighter, the problem you are having here is only tangentially related to getting phone numbers. I'll try to help you see it another way. Forget for a second about whether you get her phone number. Think instead about the quality of the interaction. As DeepBlue would say, it's not getting her phone number but having her anxiously await your call that counts.

Many guys get caught in the trap of thinking that BECAUSE a woman gave them her phone number that she MUST be interested. As your own experience has demonstrated, nothing can be further from the truth. Often the woman is not particularly interested but when you ask for her phone number she finds it much easier to give you her number and flake later than to endure the discomfort of not appearing to be a nice person at that moment. Guys will often get mad at women because of this or view this behavior as deceptive but I see it as human nature to be prone to reacting this way in an uncomfortable situation. I think MOST people want to appear nice, friendly and agreeable even when another person clearly has something different in mind than them.

So with all this in mind, FreedomFighter, I would encourage you to take the phone number issue out of your evaluation for a moment and think about issues such as attraction, rapport, body language, frame setting, conversation and examine what is going on in THOSE areas.

There actually are some other logistical issues about phone numbers which are perfectly valid but my first take is to think that what I wrote above is closer to the problem you are having right now.

-PDX
 

Tha Realnezz

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It's a part of their game to see tease you.Calling them is something you gotta do.
 

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Sometimes girls just give you the number cause they are just curious on what u gona do with it, see your intentions, see if you're gona call for something, or send an sms. It isnt interest everytime.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Don't forget that they'll give you a number (real or fake) just to get rid of you. Some girls just can't say "no."
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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WORKEROUTER

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Originally posted by freedom_fighter777
After getting hundreds of phone numbers and having nothing come out of it I've come to the conclusion that it just doesn't work. I'll get the classic "Uh, Can I call you back?" Or they won't pick up etc. I'm urging everyone on this board to follow me and ditch this old worn out method. If your going to give her your number just let her call its the only way you can tell if she's interested. Post your thoughts.
It sounds like you're exaggerating...I doubt you've gotten "hundreds of phone numbers." In fact, I doubt that you've gotten more than a few phone numbers!

Either way, your way of thinking is off. Rather than getting pissed off and worrying about who should give who the phone number, you need to be thinking about what mistakes you're making. Obviously, if you've really gotten hundreds of numbers with no avail, then there's a serious error in your approach, mannerisms, etc...
 

WORKEROUTER

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Re: Re: Fvck Getting numbers

It sounds like you're exaggerating...I doubt you've gotten "hundreds of phone numbers." In fact, I doubt that you've gotten more than a few phone numbers!

Either way, your way of thinking is off. Rather than getting pissed off and worrying about who should give who the phone number, you need to be thinking about what mistakes you're making. Clearly, if you've really gotten hundreds of numbers with no avail, then there's a serious error in your approach, mannerisms, etc...
 

Don Juanabbe

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I've recently encountered a new tactic: I met this girl at a bar, got some good convo going with her, and asked her for her number. She gave it to me, and I entered it into my cell.

Then she asked me for mine. Turns out, she gave me a bum number - it was off by one digit. How I know this is that she then phoned me 4 days later and lo and behold, she was phoning from a number with one different digit.

I guess she was screening me or something, I didn't bother calling her on it, and didn't bother going out with her because I found her to be a little insulting, even in our first conversation over the phone, so I can only imagine what she'd be like after a few dates.
 

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
....and I entered it into my cell.

That is what I am doing. Do not write down her number but save it in your cell phone. Tell her you send her your number by calling her cell phone (it will be on her display). Then you will know if the number is fake.

... she might ignore your calls anyway....
 

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If you get a girl's number and you call but she doesn't answer, or won't agree to a date, or f**ks around with you, it's because you didn't make an impression with her, but you're keeping your options open.

How many times have you gotten a girl's number but never called her? How many times has some girl who was into you called you, but you let your phone ring? She's swearing at the phone too. The truth is it's not the phone's fault. It's that you didn't make enough of a connection with this girl for her to take the time to respond to your phonecall.

It may not be your fault.

-She may have a boyfriend and may have given her number out to inspire jealousy, or because he'd been ticking her off lately.

-She may have met someone more interesting

etc

Just live and learn.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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jakethasnake

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Originally posted by christz
quick thing about phones and conversation.

obvoiusly if you got the # from the girl she's intrested.


Not so, if:


1) You got a fake number.

2) She gave it to you just to get you to go away.




Happens all the time. No need to get worked up over it, though - you will only be devastated/crushed if you don't kill your desperation, or are too sensitive. ;)
 

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In my lifetime, i have NEVER witnessed a girl say "No" when asked for a number... yet i know plenty of people (including myself) who get the good old "Can i call you right back?"

Words..they are nothing...
 
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