"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Funny how men are like hungry hyenas at bars / clubs

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Like 99.9% of men, I am the same way too I guess.

Any girl who is atleast a HB5 and is not with another guy in the bar/club scene is like a wounded animal about to be pounced (hit on) by hungry hyenas (horny men).

I saw something funny at the club this weekend. This HB 8.5 was dancing with her friends (she was the best looking one of the group) and within minutes there were about 5-6 guys surrounding her just staring like a pack of hungry hyenas.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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stuka1939 said:
Like 99.9% of men, I am the same way too I guess.

Any girl who is atleast a HB5 and is not with another guy in the bar/club scene is like a wounded animal about to be pounced (hit on) by hungry hyenas (horny men).

I saw something funny at the club this weekend. This HB 8.5 was dancing with her friends (she was the best looking one of the group) and within minutes there were about 5-6 guys surrounding her just staring like a pack of hungry hyenas.

Scenes like that really makes me loss hope for our generation of men!
 

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ZenGodMod said:
Scenes like that really makes me loss hope for our generation of men!
It is also an eye opener for men who think just because there girlfriend isn't a HB8 or higher, that men will leave her alone.
 

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stuka1939 said:
It is also an eye opener for men who think just because there girlfriend isn't a HB8 or higher, that men will leave her alone.


Listen, it's not like those men will do anything. Some of them might be good enough to become a friend, others are just plain unattractive desperate chaps.... It's like your girl is having a gay guy friend.
 
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stuka1939 said:
I saw something funny at the club this weekend. This HB 8.5 was dancing with her friends (she was the best looking one of the group) and within minutes there were about 5-6 guys surrounding her just staring like a pack of hungry hyenas.
Yeah it is typical of the scene. However what I have noticed is that very few of these guys will take any real action. They will dance around her like chodes hoping that she will pay them attention.

A long time ago when I first started going out I used to think that all the guys in the club where better than me because I saw them dancing with women. Now I understand how easy it is to walk up to one of these groups, grab the girls hand and pull her away from them without saying a word. The first time I did something like that it completely shattered my reality. The bar is set a lot lower than you think.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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PlasticSurgeon said:
What clubs/bars do you go to? I don't even go to these places anymore. I find the hottest club in the area and go on nights when the women outnumber the men. Usually ladies night.


If you're going out to a bar to pick up a woman do your homework. If you don't, you wind up like the rest of the afc population and you just gawk at the one HB8.5.

What a waste of a night. Say you only go out one night a week. Why waste it on a place like that. There are great clubs that know they gotta have pools of hot women in order to get business from men. Do some research and find those places.

There are places out there where the guy is the wounded animal you speak of..
You ever go to Culture Club? I really want to go there.
 

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stuka1939 said:
Like 99.9% of men, I am the same way too I guess.

Any girl who is atleast a HB5 and is not with another guy in the bar/club scene is like a wounded animal about to be pounced (hit on) by hungry hyenas (horny men).

I saw something funny at the club this weekend. This HB 8.5 was dancing with her friends (she was the best looking one of the group) and within minutes there were about 5-6 guys surrounding her just staring like a pack of hungry hyenas.

LOL so true. Another killer is that if you accidentally bump into some of these guys they take it as an invitation to challenge you to a fight or get unnecessarily vulgar with you. I guess it's all of that built up angst. I try not to stare at girls at clubs. Playing cool and not looking like a desperate chode is essential.
 

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PlasticSurgeon said:
Culture Club is loads of fun because I'm a huge 80's fan. I was there about a month ago.

Are you in Manhattan? Do you know this city has waaaay more single women then men? Hot women always go wherever rich men go.
I live about 1.5 hours south of Manhattan in Jersey.

My buddy lives in Yorkville and I was up there a few months ago.

I was STUNNED on the amount of attractive women on the street. I think I counted like 40 in a row until I saw an average or ugly woman.

I realized the reason for this is the girls in NYC (and people in general) CARE about their appearance and don't let themselves GET FAT.
 

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stuka1939 said:
Like 99.9% of men, I am the same way too I guess.

Any girl who is atleast a HB5 and is not with another guy in the bar/club scene is like a wounded animal about to be pounced (hit on) by hungry hyenas (horny men).

I saw something funny at the club this weekend. This HB 8.5 was dancing with her friends (she was the best looking one of the group) and within minutes there were about 5-6 guys surrounding her just staring like a pack of hungry hyenas.
One of the reasons I've come to loathe the bar scene to pick up women. Just not the type of place u want to find a date.......a fu#k, yes. But def. not a date.

There's exceptions to this, obviously.

But i def. do feel like one of the hyenas
 
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