"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Fukk Buddy Question

Chris Gamble

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Alright Guys, I know i don't have a lot of posts here but I've been reading the forums for a while now. Here's my situation and any advice/critism is welcome.

I recently (about 2 1/2 weeks ago) lost my virginity (I'm 19) to a 21 yr old. We had been messing around off and on for a while before that and finally the V is gone! (I'm glad I've started this whole sex thing :)) Anyway...we've had sex prob 6 or 7 times since then and its been enjoyable for both of us, blah blah blah.

Here's the issue. I go a university and she lives right next door to me. She has said that we are "seeing" eachother, and I am starting to have some feelings for her. I have been fairly DJ like with her, and I am doing my best to not fall too hard for her, but she hasn't had a relationship for like 3 years and I would like to be dating her, she has said she DOES like me, but I don't mind where things are at right now. I see her prob. once a day (she has two jobs, etc.) and I am wanting to see her more but want to act detached, etc. Should I bring up the relationship issue or just keep my mouth shut? On Sunday I just went over to her apartment without calling and we ended up having sex (and she said something to the effect of "I could get used to having sex with you")...sluts!

How often should I call this girl? Should I play a little ganja (sp?) Should I not just stop by at her place? Obviously I am getting my first taste of woman here and it is GOOD! What can I do to make the best of this situation and not make anything weird? Thanks for your help DJs.

-Chris
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Sexual

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I can't give you the best advice here, but I can make a recommendation since I've been in your exact situation.

If you're like me, losing my virginity was just pity for the woman in terms of her enjoying herself. Act as carefree as you can, and don't ever even think you're in love with such a trashy girl. Stay with her for as long as things don't get serious and LEARN ALL YOU CAN. Have sex as much as possible, even ask her to show you all she knows.

Your experiance boosts up in sex/relationships and after you're through with her, all you'll need to know is how to get the kind of woman you want.
 

Chris Gamble

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'preciate the responses guys...

Yeah...I am looking at this as a learning experience for sure. How do you bring up the subject of sex? I don't want to make it seem like that is all I want (which is partly true), but the serious relationship thing may not happen. She has made it clear to me that she wants to continue to have sex (i.e. "We'll have to try that again", hinting towards future sex, etc). Obviously with this being my first sexual partner I don't have all the tricks of the trade down, so any response is appreciated. Thanks again fellas!

-Chris
 

DeathDealer

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Well, you're on the right ladder. You can go from Fbuddy to relationship but never friend to relationship (unless girl initiates it.) - Guess it looks like you both might move down to that couple-status.. play it cool - you see each other often and stuff.. carry on.
 

Nightspark

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ive been there with u dude.... except i was 18 and she was 21:D

anyways i dont see a possibilty for a relationship.... maybe a 2% chance of a LTR but i guess what u have going on now is a relationship in a sense... jsut an advanced one... i dunno i cant say too much about this situation becasue i ddnt like the fbuddy i had in the same sense u see that girl...

anywyas hope it goes well and u get urr answers soon dude

Cheerz

Nightspark:D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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becker

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So true about bringing up relationships, it definitely isn't a good move. I learned that the hard way. Just keep having sex if you can, and it may lead to more naturally.
 

Chris Gamble

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Oh, believe I am going to have sex as much as possible! ;) I just read Pook's "Kill That Desperation" and it helped a lot. I really wanted to call her tonight, she said she'd "call me sometime" when I left her place last night AND I WANT TO CALL HER AND DO SEX! But I didn't, nor did I just stop by (remember she lives next door). So that's a positive step.

DeathDealer, you think I can take this to the relationship level, and Nightspark, you don't. Can you guys elaborate on your reasoning? I do care about this girl but don't NEED to have a relationship, so I would like to hear both sides of the coin.

Thanks again for the responses DJs!

-Chris
 
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