Frustration in the dating market

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

We've had a decade where women have had enormous amounts of attention lavished on them by men from all walks of life

The type of money and attention that perhaps once upon a time would have been reserved for the very best of the best

Problem is women are now left with a level of competition in the market which is absolutely merciless every single chick wants to be an IT girl 8 / 9 and present herself as arm candy to get a free ticket to an easy life.

You've got 5,6 and 7's desperately trying to scramble their way up the ladder aswell as the naturally attractive women and only a tiny pool of "eligible" men to entertain them

The dynamics just don't seem sustainable to me and I fear a lot of women are shortly going to enter their 30's and 40's with incredibly unrealistic views of both relationships and the dating market with a rapidly diminishing SMV

You're right of course, but it's hardly anyone's sole responsibility. It's to the point of someone being somewhat fringe being a necessitous pre req for multiple dates, FWB or LTR tier women. Situationships, SNL, or plates I could care less. Those 30s-40s women who still make an effort to look good are gonna get real "cheap" real fast. As fast as they become aware of WHAT they are and why WHO they are doesn't matter. Sad state of affairs. But we adapt and overcome, as cliche as it sounds.

 

[CornbreadFed]

One thing that many people don't realize is just how insanely wealthy America has become. There are 25 million people in America with a net worth of over $1 million. That's nearly 10% of the total adult population. And most of these millionaires are concentrated in certain geographic areas, which means that there is an enormous concentration of wealth. So if you are a hot, young chick living in NYC, LA or Miami, expecting a guy to be loaded is not that unrealistic.

A millionaire is more likely to be some baby boomer with 1 million in assets not some bitcoin Alpha stud sigma male bodybuilder cold approaching in Miami. Women want a dude willing to transfer money in to fun & status activities even if it means debt. The rich guys you see blowing money on women are basically trust fund babies or hood rich men.

 

[Solomon]

We've had a decade where women have had enormous amounts of attention lavished on them by men from all walks of life

The type of money and attention that perhaps once upon a time would have been reserved for the very best of the best

Problem is women are now left with a level of competition in the market which is absolutely merciless every single chick wants to be an IT girl 8 / 9 and present herself as arm candy to get a free ticket to an easy life.

You've got 5,6 and 7's desperately trying to scramble their way up the ladder aswell as the naturally attractive women and only a tiny pool of "eligible" men to entertain them

The dynamics just don't seem sustainable to me and I fear a lot of women are shortly going to enter their 30's and 40's with incredibly unrealistic views of both relationships and the dating market with a rapidly diminishing SMV

You're already seeing it now. For example, women who are used to dating rich guys in their 20s then get older and lose their looks but still expect to pull that type of guy. I remember back in 2024, I dated(just one 1 date each)2 women who flat-out told me they were looking for a boyfriend to pay their bills. These women don't even try to hide it anymore; needless to say, I banged them and sent them on their way.

The problem with women who are spoiled and kept by a man is that usually they have insufferable personalities, NOT ALL. But these women are used to having their ass kissed cause their hot, but once they lose that (say go from a 9 to a 7 or 8 to a 5), they don't adjust their personalities and still think they should be treated the same way. Also some of these women are ran through so even if they are hot they have a reputation and thus no guy takes them seriously. Living in a small town the rich folks know each other and it's not hard to find intel on a hot chick if you know the right person to ask (although I bet it may be different in a larger city of course)

I know these stories are anecdotal, but there is a reason why you see if you see a woman who is hot in her early 30s, perpetually single, that usually has a shtty personality and most likely some mental baggage to boot

I'm also noticing women in their 40s doubling down who refuse to settle and they end up being FWB or side chicks at best with the type of man they want. These women, while they look good for their age just can't compete with the 25-year-olds. They could probably date a guy 20 years older who would treat them well but they refuse to do so. Honestly, it's pathetic to see a woman in her 40s still going to bars and clubs every weekend hoping some rich chad will take her seriously, meanwhile they get pumped and dumped or dealing with short-term situationships at best.

Insanity!

 

[Bokanovsky]

You're already seeing it now. For example, women who are used to dating rich guys in their 20s then get older and lose their looks but still expect to pull that type of guy. I remember back in 2024, I dated(just one 1 date each)2 women who flat-out told me they were looking for a boyfriend to pay their bills. These women don't even try to hide it anymore; needless to say, I banged them and sent them on their way.

The problem with women who are spoiled and kept by a man is that usually they have insufferable personalities, NOT ALL. But these women are used to having their ass kissed cause their hot, but once they lose that (say go from a 9 to a 7 or 8 to a 5), they don't adjust their personalities and still think they should be treated the same way. Also some of these women are ran through so even if they are hot they have a reputation and thus no guy takes them seriously. Living in a small town the rich folks know each other and it's not hard to find intel on a hot chick if you know the right person to ask (although I bet it may be different in a larger city of course)

I know these stories are anecdotal, but there is a reason why you see if you see a woman who is hot in her early 30s, perpetually single, that usually has a shtty personality and most likely some mental baggage to boot

I'm also noticing women in their 40s doubling down who refuse to settle and they end up being FWB or side chicks at best with the type of man they want. These women, while they look good for their age just can't compete with the 25-year-olds. They could probably date a guy 20 years older who would treat them well but they refuse to do so. Honestly, it's pathetic to see a woman in her 40s still going to bars and clubs every weekend hoping some rich chad will take her seriously, meanwhile they get pumped and dumped or dealing with short-term situationships at best.

Insanity!

If hot women were smart, they would marry rich guys while they are still in their 20's. That would be the equivalent of selling stock at the peak of the market. And unlike the stock market, it's not difficult to predict when a woman's looks are going to peak. The fact that these women waste their 20's doing the most ridiculous sh!t and then find themselves missing the train to easy life is mind-boggling.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I know these stories are anecdotal, but there is a reason why you see if you see a woman who is hot in her early 30s, perpetually single, that usually has a shtty personality and most likely some mental baggage to boot

If hot women were smart, they would marry rich guys while they are still in their 20's. That would be the equivalent of selling stock at the peak of the market. And unlike the stock market, it's not difficult to predict when a woman's looks are going to peak. The fact that these women waste their 20's doing the most ridiculous sh!t and then find themselves missing the train to easy life is mind-boggling.

The problem with this whole line of reasoning is that it's just completely detached from reality for the vast majority of men. Like, who exactly are we talking about here? OnlyFans girls and women who are exclusively chasing athletes and yacht guys? Okay, where are you meeting these women? Because unless you are deliberately putting yourself in those spaces or you are chronically online consuming that content, these women are not a variable in your life. They are not showing up at your job. They are not at your local bar. They are not swiping right on your average ass on Tinder. If these girls are actively engaging with you then you have something going for you that most men do not have which means you need to work on advanced level/handsome man's game.

And the flip side of that is equally important. Average women are not being meaningfully influenced by those dynamics either, because the men actually driving hypergamous behavior, your Drakes, your Leonardos, your billionaire tech guys, are not out here pursuing average women. That's not how any of this works. Drake is not pulling up to a McDonald's in suburban Kansas City and changing some girl's standards forever. That's not a real phenomenon affecting your dating pool.

So what's actually happening here is that a lot of guys have constructed this elaborate external explanation for why their dating life sucks, and it conveniently requires zero self-reflection. Maybe social media has warped some women's expectations at the margins, sure, I'll grant you that. But if you are a regular dude in a regular city struggling to get dates, the much more probable explanation is that your dating skills are bad, your profile is bad, or you are simply not attractive enough yet and that's a fixable problem. The competition rot thesis is cope.