thegator39
Don Juan
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What's the worst they are going to do, run away? lol
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Okay. That's extremely weird.thegator39 said:I've had enough and am taking things into my own hands. I made a profile with a guy that's a better looking version of myself, wrote down the kind of things women want to hear, and will use my manipulation skills to seduce them via online, and meet a few of them in person and hope one doesn't care and likes "the real me." I can't help it that I was born a 6. Fat women do the same thing online.
thegator39 said:You weren't reading the part where I said there's nowhere to approach. And I've had enough of unsuccessfully talking to waitresses and the like.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Eh. Not really. This is just something you're telling yourself.thegator39 said:I'm not ugly (6 ft, in shape, exercise, not an ugly face) and have been told as much by women online and real life. Most 6s want men out of their league and think because a guy has used them for sex makes them hotter than they really are.
Your "woe is me" attitude isn't going to accomplish anything. Instead of focusing on why you haven't hit the lottery, you aren't a top paid actor, or having constant sex with girls, focus on yourself; your brain, your body, your look, your social life. Focus on GIVING BACK to people. Focus on IMPROVING other people's lives. You haven't told us ONE THING about what you are good at or that you can TEACH a girl other than you really want to have sex with her.thegator39 said:I notice myself just getting angrier...not at anyone in particular, but the system...how it's built for the rich (or 10 percent) to get richer, and the rest of men left to date or marry UGs, fatties or 5s.
Not sure what life threatening depression is, there are people who have slept in bathroom floors at train stations with their sons having empty stomachs and have gone on to be millionaires. There are people who have been locked in dungeons for 20 years and raped repeatedly by their family member, got pregnant, and have been raped again and are trying to function normally now. Obviously you have a roof over your head, a computer and and internet connection you are paying for, so you can't be in that bad of shape.I've studied this sh*t for years, and have overcome life threatening depression and rock bottom self-esteem,
Again, you are so focused on YOU. Focus on OTHERS. Focus on WHAT YOU BRING to THEIR LIVES, how you can IMPROVE IT, make it BETTER.am tall, in shape, and not butt ugly...and what I do have to show for it...one girl that I didn't even have sex with and only met due to facebook, who left me because she wasn't over her ex who stole 4,000 dollars from her for his drug addiction.
My only hope is that I have sex and think "That was it? All of that obsession for that?"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
My advice right now is actually quite short. I have a whole laundry list for you, but you won't be able to get to that yet:thegator39 said:I've studied this sh*t for years, and have overcome life threatening depression and rock bottom self-esteem
See what you did there? You refused advice from someone who knows more than you because you "disagree" with him. If someone else here who is not a virgin disagrees with him, maybe they've got something to say.thegator39 said:DonJuan11, I've seen your "Sex is an exchange" theory all over the board and don't agree with it. Women have sex for their own recreation. They just want it with certain guys.
Amen.teacha said:...AND JUST READ THE BOOK OF POOK.
This is like talking to a brick wall.thegator39 said:If it took "learning game" to get laid, the world wouldn't exist. Most men are worse off than myself and have had sex. Most men are WBAFCs and have managed to have sex.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Cape Verdeans? Geez, about as bad as being stuck in Southern California. You don't hunt for trophy Elk in the Sahara.thegator39 said:I'm not ugly (6 ft, in shape, exercise, not an ugly face) and have been told as much by women online and real life. Most 6s want men out of their league and think because a guy has used them for sex makes them hotter than they really are.
In my town, it's black people and cape verdeans breeding with other black people and cape verdeans.
thegator39 said:Loveshogun, you can continue the pop-psychology all you want, but you're in the same position as me...typing in a pick-up forum while other guys are busy in real life with women. And I don't want to hear made up lies about the women you pretend to get. At least I admit to being where I am and not a glorified KJ full of "man up" horse rubbish.
Wrong.thegator39 said:Loveshogun, you can continue the pop-psychology all you want, but you're in the same position as me...typing in a pick-up forum while other guys are busy in real life with women.
Too bad, you're gonna hear em. Not just from me, but from everyone.thegator39 said:And I don't want to hear made up lies about the women you pretend to get. At least I admit to being where I am and not a glorified KJ full of "man up" horse rubbish.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.