"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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From NO inner game to killer inner game, where did you start?

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CasanovaFrankenstein

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Is there anyone here who started out as the poster boy for AFC's, I'm talking about the most pathetic neediest clingiest most desperate friend-zone dwelling creatures on the planet...and transformed their confidence, inner game, whatever you want to call it, 180 degrees? Are there guys here who were everything this board says not to be (on a mental/emotional level), and became everything this board encourages (again, on a mental/emotional level), and where did you start? What are the best suggestions you can give from your own experiences?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I used to be probably the least attractive guy at my school. Definitely bottom 10. Short, acne-ridden, shy, terrible fashion sense, you get the picture. I found the forums in 2003 after some girl said i was "soooooo cute" when I hugged her, and I wanted to know what it meant. I was hoping it meant she wanted to marry me and have loads of kids right away :p

I began reading voraciously and putting things like kino, etc. into action. Nature also suddenly turned in my favour and I grew to a normal height, my skin became clear and my muscles filled out so I became a successful cyclist, racing for a while at the European under 18 level before I gave that up to concentrate on university (where I'm now making the first nervous steps towards a PhD in English).

The best advice is that these forums are not aimed just at improving your relationships with women, but at becoming a greater success at life in general. And with that of course hopefully comes success with women.

It's a slow process. I was so far behind the game that it took one and a half years of being here to even get my first kiss (when I was 17). After that, however, it all began to come very naturally, and I'm now at a stage where I'm beginning to feel like I could get any girl I wanted.

Five years on, I'm still trying to improve.
 
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First, On this board, There are a lot of "men" that are bitter and really DO NOT know anything about men. They huff and puff about running routines, playing hard to get, etc all BS. So take advice with a grain of salt.

Now for learning inner game, Go and pick up David Deida's How to be a superior man. That book changed my views about how REAL MEN are suppose to act.
 
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