"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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From NO inner game to killer inner game, where did you start?

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CasanovaFrankenstein

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Is there anyone here who started out as the poster boy for AFC's, I'm talking about the most pathetic neediest clingiest most desperate friend-zone dwelling creatures on the planet...and transformed their confidence, inner game, whatever you want to call it, 180 degrees? Are there guys here who were everything this board says not to be (on a mental/emotional level), and became everything this board encourages (again, on a mental/emotional level), and where did you start? What are the best suggestions you can give from your own experiences?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I used to be probably the least attractive guy at my school. Definitely bottom 10. Short, acne-ridden, shy, terrible fashion sense, you get the picture. I found the forums in 2003 after some girl said i was "soooooo cute" when I hugged her, and I wanted to know what it meant. I was hoping it meant she wanted to marry me and have loads of kids right away :p

I began reading voraciously and putting things like kino, etc. into action. Nature also suddenly turned in my favour and I grew to a normal height, my skin became clear and my muscles filled out so I became a successful cyclist, racing for a while at the European under 18 level before I gave that up to concentrate on university (where I'm now making the first nervous steps towards a PhD in English).

The best advice is that these forums are not aimed just at improving your relationships with women, but at becoming a greater success at life in general. And with that of course hopefully comes success with women.

It's a slow process. I was so far behind the game that it took one and a half years of being here to even get my first kiss (when I was 17). After that, however, it all began to come very naturally, and I'm now at a stage where I'm beginning to feel like I could get any girl I wanted.

Five years on, I'm still trying to improve.
 
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First, On this board, There are a lot of "men" that are bitter and really DO NOT know anything about men. They huff and puff about running routines, playing hard to get, etc all BS. So take advice with a grain of salt.

Now for learning inner game, Go and pick up David Deida's How to be a superior man. That book changed my views about how REAL MEN are suppose to act.
 
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