From a man's perspective

[backbreaker]

I met a woman last friday. She's cute..... about a solid 7. Ahh.. I'm actually kinda seeing someone and it's getting somewhat serious.. and I'm juggling about 3 other woman as well that are all hot but basically I'm just keeping myself busy. So when I met this woman... over a new friends house.. I wasn't really in the mood. I was nice but made no move whatsoever on her.

After about an hour or so.... of everyone hanging out.. it became ovboius.. at least to me, that she was checking me out. Then when it was time for everyone to leave, she specefically asked me to drive her home, which being the gentleman I am, I did... that and she was like a 5 mintue drive from my house.

So she says to me, out of the blue...although I can tell she was building up the courage to ask.."are you gay?"..which I actually get now alot. Right then I knew what the deal was. She wnated to know why I hadn't been checking her out/making any moves on her or any other females there.

If I told her what i really thought (that she wasn't hot enough to crack my normal rotation) I probably would have hurt her feelings.. so I told her "lol, No i'm not gay".. and left it at that. no need to explain myself or what I do to this cvnt.. let the ***** get wet thinking about it.. ***** wanna dance.. I can dance too.

She then starts asking prying questions.. "so where is your GF", "are you single", "why aren't you like all other men".. all of which I babble but don't answer.. which is now an artform of mine.

we get to her house.. and she asks me to come in and have a drink with her because she finds talking to me so "interesting" . I actaully thought about it.. I really, really was trying to get home.. My dogs needed to be let out adn I had a hotter peice of ass waiitng on me to call her.

so I think...well.. it's free.. and it would be kinda rude of me not to.. what the hell. one drink won't hurt.

nice little pad... she leads me STRAIGHT into the bedroom, and brings me back a crown and coke (that's another rant.. why do women think that every black guy likes crown and coke... I mean I DO but that's not the point.. like every black guy in america can live off crown and coke, fried chicken and watermelon) and then starts doing litting silly **** like "oh.. my back hurts so much"

It got so damn ovboius it wasn't fun for me. I could have ****ed that woman silly, she was begging for it. and she is cute... not bad looking at all. but I dont' know... I just am on a different level that what she is bringing to the table. I was hoping to get a hummer and leave or something but I dont' have time to actually **** this woman.

So in spite of her laying next to me wtching TV.. in the bed..w ith the lights off.... I hop up, put on my shoes and leave. She has this look like "this mother****er just didn't get up and leave without even making an attempt to **** me" look on her face. She said "well can we at least exchange numbers?"".. and i didn't want to do that for some reason.. I don't know something about her...I just didn't want to the drama of another woman to deal with.. but what the hell.. I gave her mine..s he gave me hers.. and as soo as I hit the road I threw it out the window. If I never saw her again I would be none the wiser.


So I get a call yesterday from my friend.. he tells me this girl has gone Solid Snake looking for my ass. she called him, and asked HIM why I wasn't picking up the phone (which is why I dont' give women my cell phone number.. I can listen to your pathetic messages if I don't want to talk to you and not bother) and returning her calls.

So I am sitting at home today.. I had a tough day at the track.. and I barely stuck around for the Del Mar meet.. I was done by the time Arlington wrapped up.. I was in the mode where I was not thinking logical.. and there is always tomorrow.. so I got a drink at the bar, and headed home for an early day with nothing planned. the phone rings..and rings.. and keeps ringing.. I finally say this persistant *****... **** it. I pick up. I wanted to say "what the **** do you want?" but I managed a "hello?".. and she sounded so happy to see me. wanted to know what i have been doing ( ****ing hotter women) and when she could see me again. I knew I couldn't get out this one wihtout hurting her feelings, which I didn't honestly care about, but she really didnt' do anything wrong.. and she was good looking.. and ovbiously very into me. What the hell. She told me she was cooking and wanted to know if I wanted to come over for dinner. why not.. I sure as hell didn't feel like cooking or going out to eat, which I would have to do one or the other... and I might just get a blow job out of it (my life revolves around trying to get blow jobs if you can't tell)

so I come to the door.. and she pulls out al the stops..I gotta admit...very very nice. short skirt, had her hair done, smelled great. but the whole time I am over there... I am thinking... why am I here? If I **** her.. she is going to want my time..which I barley have enough now.. and again.. I don't really LIKE her. plus she seems kinda clingy.. that's a turnoff to me. you learn to spot signs in crazy women after a while.. that's one of them.

So she makes homemade pizza which was GREAT and we had some mexican chicken afterwards..which was GREAT. She is really pulling all out the stops. I wanna like her.. but i just..can't. poor woman.. she is trying. she's done everything besides just whip out my **** and st...

and as soon as I say that...as we are watching TV.. she just pulls it out.. I let her snuggle up against me already.. knowing what her intentions were. it's really a cat and mouse game.. we both knew what was going on... but it was more of a matter of how long she could hold out.. because i Had no qualms about going back home. like sayin "okay mother****er.. you are goign to **** me wather you like it or not"

And in the middle of the BJ i get up and put on my ****.. I'm just torn. I really didn't WANT to be there in the first place. and I have other options.. it's like I am supposed to like her, but I don't. So she starts getting somewhat emotional...."why dont' you want me? am I not sexy to you? are you dating someone else??....I think you are really special"..

that actually pissed me off for some reason, and I told her "woman you don't even KNOW me, you just want to know i want to **** you" and left.

she called me apologizing and wanted to see if she could make "it". up to me.. mind you she has done nothing whatsoever wrong.. hell she was giving me a pretty nich BJ. Fed me, and she can even crack a good joke.

So with her blowing up my phone.. I got to thinking... damn.. this is how alot of woman probably see alot of guys out there.. they are NO challange. this woman is EXTREMLY ****able. I wouldn't mind taking her out in public. She's... I don't know..European Desent.. olive conpletion. long legs, high cheekbones which i am a sucker for, y ou can tell she either watches what she eats or works out. keeps a clean place. no kids....

BUT SHE'S TOOOOOO ****ING EASY. I can call her right now and she would be over here licking my balls within half an hour.

The woman I am somewhat seeing somewhat serously... I know she diggs me.. but she respects herself too much to make a fool out of herself. There is a line with her.. I resepct that, and I find that extremely sexy. She knows I see other women, but the one time she was at my house and I answered the phone.. and talked to a woman..... she got dressed and left and didn't think twice about it... .. I was actually worried on if I blew it with her or not for a second. she told me 2 days later "I know that you see other women, I'm not dumb, and we haven't known each other that long, but if you can't respect me enough to not flaunt it in front of my face, I don't need to be there"...and she was 110% right.

This girl that is blowing up my phone I can probably actually **** another girl in her BED while she is videotaping and she woudln't think twice about getting sloppy seconds.


I guess what i am saying is guys.. not that i didn't know it already, but I had a working knowledge of it.. now I SEE what women deal with. this has nothing to do with looks.. it's knowing that it's not a challege in the least bit and her supplementary nature adds nothing positive to my life

 

[Last Man Standing]

Originally Posted by Last Man Standing...

There is no member on this website who is so intertwined with the hor populous more so than Str8up!! Is he pulling our chain or is this real??

Actually Backbreaker - the above quote now applies to you and not Str8up..I pass the Hor torch to you!!

There is no member on this website who is so intertwined with the hor populous more so than Backbreaher!! Is he pulling our chain or is this real??

When Hors become too easy they become sleazzzzy!!!

 

[Dongfu]

Excellent post

I too have this problem, except that it happens after I sleep with most women. Using the Indirect Nudge technique from my book, along with other techniques to make women *** like they never have before, women begin to stalk me, become obsessive, or possessive, and offer no further challenge.

I tell women on a regular basis, "You seem like a fairly interesting person to me, but I must warn you, I have not met a woman in recent years who can truly hold my attention. You have caught my attention, but are you sure you have what it takes to keep it. If not, then we are probably both wasting our time."

This, of course makes them try extra hard, which is also a turn-off. It seems to me that no matter hot she is, and no matter how great the sex, I just eventually lose interest, especially when they get clingy.

I need a girl who could do with or without me, but enjoys our time together. Does this girl exsist?

ps BackBreaker, I used to live on 15th street, and I went to Del Mar Hills elementary.

 

[Obsidian]

When Hors become too easy they become sleazzzzy!!!

wise words. This girl sounds like a total hor.

but this post is actually quite insightful, backbreaker. I will take it to heart.

 

[blackbelt2k]

backbreaker, your my hero

 

[CF9]

backbreaker -- Congrats man... Seriously, I mean it. You just "get it" at so many different levels from my perspective.

 

[backbreaker]

as far as her being a hor... every woman has some whor in her when she is around a man she is attracted to that won't give. that girl you think is the greatest girl on earth will be naked in seconds if the guy she longed for was around and made any indication that he thought she was sexy.

I mean, I'm out on her not because I think she is whorish.. I just am not feeling her. i have other, better prospects... at least in my eyes. I think the quality of men she is used to getting attention to is not close to my level, and she took me not being rude for attraction..which like i said..she's easy on the eyes.. but I'm too busy and occupied.

BackBreaker, I used to live on 15th street, and I went to Del Mar Hills elementary.

I'm on Dolphin Cove Ct. I just moved out here however. 15th street is a hop skip and a jump away. this chick stays right off 15th.

This, of course makes them try extra hard, which is also a turn-off. It seems to me that no matter hot she is, and no matter how great the sex, I just eventually lose interest, especially when they get clingy.

sounds a lot like me. women are like rollar coaster rides.. each one is fun the first say... 10 times.. after that it gets old. I hate clinginess. I can go weeks without calling or wanting to talk to a woamn.. this throws most women in fits. the woman I am seeing now, one of the reason I am fund of her because she has her own life that doesn't involve me. I like that. I can have my own life too.

 

[speakeasy]

I need to f*cking move to Del Mar or something if there's that much p*ssy
down there begging to be f*cked.

 

[backbreaker]

it's a reason I left Arkansas.. and I was doing good there. I have the entire SoCal area as my playground

 

[speakeasy]

Miami is even better though. If you can pull in the Miami scene, you can pull anywhere.

 

[backbreaker]

i just moved from (around) there.. I lived in Sarasota and Venice for about 6 months.. made the trip to Miami, about a 2 hour drive, at least every two weeks.

 

[strong like bull]

she sounds like the kind of girl that a lot of guys would give anything to be with. to have a girl that giving, always trying to please you. yeah, maybe shes not gorgeous but shes good enough to turn you on. sex probably wouldnt be spectacular, but comfortable. she'll probably treat you like a king.

and thats all fine and dandy, except youre not most guys. maybe you feel you deserve better than that. when a man progresses past certain points in life and reaches certain levels other guys have not, your priorities change. a girl like this comes on to the average guy and he gets so excited he busts in his pants... accomplished men size the woman up and down and say, "yeah? and? whats so special about you?"

yeah, you could bag that girl and have fun for a while. chuckle to yourself while shes giving you head, 'cause she thinks youre the greatest ever and starts to fall in love with you.

but if she doesnt truly excite you, doesnt really challenge you and doesnt bring any significant value into your life... is she worth the time? lifes too short to settle for less.

-SLB

 

[speakeasy]

Here's a question to backbreaker. You didnt really into much about what happened in that hour you were there. Ok, now what made her so attracted to you like that? Did you bust a lot of jokes, did you tell a lot of DHV stories? Were you being C&F? Because girls don't normally work that hard.

 

[backbreaker]

honestly, I wasn't paying any attention to her. we were playing spades. I mean, I saw she was there and I wasn't an *******... but I was talking to my partner.

After a while she started to make drinks for everyone.. since she didn't know how to play spades, and asked me what I wanted.. that was the extent of our conversation.

man.. I was just playing spades... and i take spades seriously

 

[WhitePimp]

I think part of the whole excitement of meeting a girl is knowing that you might NOT get a chance to bang her. With that there's some skill, or at least game involved, and I know from personal experience, I enjoy the chase probably moreso than the actual end result of sex (BJ's are fvcking awesome though!!). When a girl robs me of the chance to game her by being too easy, it's almost as if it makes me dislike her for simply being too attainable. It makes perfect sense that girls would view AFC's this way...just an absolute dislike for someone who offers zero mystique or gaming to get anywhere with.

Sometimes I wish I could turn it off because I go very long times without sex and get backed up, but part of me never feels interested in banging a chick without effort put in. This is why I cant download music...I'm not interested in hearing free music, I want to play the hell out of something I shelled out 15 bucks for and have earned the right to play!

 

[backbreaker]

sad thing is... if I had to call her and I needed a service ****, she's be here within the hour and I would put money on it. I won't go without sex... I could, I have, but I don't have a need to

even with other girls, I pretty much know i can fvck them...

the mroe I think about it the more I dont' think it's her I don't like.. I think I'm just tired of ***** as bad as it sounds. 4 months ago I would have ****ed her silly.

I really think this girl I'm seeing is getting to me. that is how I know it's time for me to get in a serious relationship.. when i just don't want to **** anyone else. the last couple of weeks moreso than any i've been just going though the motions.

my last GF.. before we dated I had a nice rotation.. then I cut it down.. then I just got tired of dealing with everyone else. Looks like the same thing. I remember i was laying in her bed and I was looking at what "she brought to the table" compared to the woman i am seeing and i Just chuckled.

 

[speakeasy]

Backbreaker, so most these girls you meet, do you meet them in a similar fashion as the one you're talking about here? Where they are doing all the work? Or is it mostly you doing the work out there?

 

[backbreaker]

I mean I don't really keep track. If I see a woman and my **** gets hard looking at her, I will make a move. it now comes pretty natural. although this woman is good looking, I wasn't looking to add to the roster.

there are times when I'm not noticing a woman or for reasons that I can't control, I can't approach, or maybe I just don't feel like it.

One thing I can say that helps me is that I am very comfortable in my skin. I love the way I look, I like the way i dress... i've done my best over the years to take care of the faults in my overall game.. so I have a swagger about myself that attracts attention from the opposite sex.. at elast that's what women tell me.

but make no mistake, if I see a woman who I presume is right up my alley and I don't see a man with her, I will talk to her. I might or might not get shot down, that's not the point. the opint is, I see something I want and I go and try to get it.

something else that I have noticed is that women do alot of the work for me. one woman I am ****ing now is a sole result of her friend harping on how "hot" I was. by the time i meet her, all the work was done. that's why I really don't like burning bridges. if I'm bored on a saturday night I have a varity of kicking it options with old flings that I'm still cool with that if I wanted to I can probably get with.. but even better.. they have friends.

 

[speakeasy]

That thing about the "swagger" is interesting. Nobody can quite define what it is, but it's something women can hone in on and pick up from extremely subtle cues that men unconsciously communicate about themselves that can demonstrate either higher or lower value in the flash of a second. Have you ever read a book called "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell? It talks in great detail about these subconscious decisions we make in the blink of an eye. It's really amazing how a woman can see a group of guys at a table and within a second already know who the alpha male of the group is and who she'd be open to sleeping with. I think this is the realm of game that can be the most difficult because we are not sure what to tweak about ourselves to have this "swagger" or even what it is exactly.

 

[backbreaker]

No.. I don't read alot of self help books. I like to read novels and stuff on horse racing.

every woman I talk to I know I'm the best option I have in their lives. I know I'm the ****..becuase I am. there is no debating this point. you take what I am offering or you don't take anything. and at the end of the day, what really gets women is that I am seriously as happy alone as I am with them.. sometimes happier. I really dont' give a **** if you leave or not.