"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Friends sister

Justaguy

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I got the impression my friend, wanted to meet his sister from out of state. She came into town last night.
Shes a HB8. I was impressed. She doesn't look anything like her brother. Which is completely awesome. She's a really cool chick. The three of us went out last night and had some drinks.
When we got to the club, I decided to stick with her, have a seat and continue talking. We had great repoire. She played with her hair as I talked to her. She initiated the Kino, generally fun and flirty. I left her once to make my "rounds", but came back and hung with her the rest of the night. It's my friends sister and my friend knows my game. We discuss techniques and approaches and psychology of "game" and what not, so I treated her as a friend more than anything.
I bought her a drink, only cause her brother wasn't around with her change money from an earlier round.
I told her "I don't buy drinks for girls I like". We had a good time. I never made an advance, but I wanted to so bad . I figured that I'd play it as a "friend" and let things be.
By the time we got back to my friends apartment
she got kinda distant on me....
We were all three sitting on the couch, eating some late night munchies. She decided she was ready to sleep so she layed out on the floor. My friend said to her (standing) "what are you doing? Aren't you going to sleep on the couch?" She said " Theyres people on the couch"
WTF?! I have a name! Why am I "people" all of a sudden? I'm gonna see this girl in a few hours and I think I'm not even gonna sweat it. My friend's gonna ask me what I think of his sister, but he knows how I can break my opinion of a girl down to him. I'm just going to "friend" her first and see how this plays out.
What do ya'll think?
Anyone with a similar experience?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Wiesman44

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tell your friend you're into her, and then game her. You must game her. Fluff her, elicit values, throw a few canned stories in there to make her laugh, kino..........just don't kiss her if u wanna stay in that area. Just keep the sexual tension going. There's nothing wrong with that.


Note: i was at the bar w/ a wing last night, a decent friend of mine, and I casually brought up his sister. I dont have any urge to game her (she is an HB), but I just talked w/ him about her, and basically got the go-ahead if i wanted to.

Moral of the story: talk with him about it, see if he minds, and then make your move. Lie or just dont tell him, and sh#t will hit the fan.
 

DonEdwardo

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Dude,

If she's your freinds sister and you like your friend, dont go there.....

If it stuffs out you can almost certainly kiss your friend goodbye, it's not worth it, something you can be sure of, vs. something that may or may not screw up a good part of your current life.

But then again if you don't like your friend... hey boys it's open season.

DonEdwardo
 

Orbitz1200

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Honestly, man, having been in a similar situation a few times, you've got a couple of things going against you.

1) This is your friend's sister, so she already sees you as sort of "off-limits" until you prove otherwise to her. (Or until he says something along those lines).

2) You treated her like a friend, reinforcing the thought she already had, that you were off-limits because you are her brother's friend.

I would either have your friend (if he's cool with it) mention to her that you're interested or make it somewhat more obvious yourself.

But it all ends up coming down to how cool your friend is with you getting on his sister.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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AudiTy

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Interesting.

Thing is, if you make a move now or later, it'll be more than a normal 'come on' because it'll go against everything you've done so far. Some people would argue this would give her alot of power over you, because you couldn't resist her.

But if you decided to play some different cards, once your over that little power slip I'm sure you could find out how interested she really is.
 

Boner da Stoner

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so I tried to picture your night guy...

hmmm

We were all three sitting on the couch, eating some late night munchies. She decided she was ready to sleep so she layed out on the floor. My friend said to her (standing) "what are you doing? Aren't you going to sleep on the couch?" She said " Theyres people on the couch"
I picture all three of you sitting on the couch.

Than she just straight up yawns and lays on the floor at your feet, and your bro's if he is still there.

She came to visit from out of town and she sleeps on the couch?

your friend suddenly stands up looks down at her and says, (I see her curled up in a little ball without a blanket.) "what are you doing?"

she looks at him, and with the whiniest voice EVER says "theres people on the couch"

My little brother is like this, he expects something from his whiny actions, he wants me to play the slave and he the master, but I don;t know any master who throws you the whip.

All I can say is, I have NEVER been in THAT situation. that girl was a whiny brat, not the kind you tease though, from the way you describe her it's like shes going to run away screaming.

My advice to you is, you wasted a good damned night, you don;t know her, and you are going to stay just friends, or you WILL ruin your relationship with your real friend. If your bro wanted you to mett her than meet her and greet her, if he wants you to start seeing her, than so be it, but make the distinction.
 

lemieux66

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don't be a scum bag.

don't **** your friend's family and ex-girlfriends.

it's real, real ****ty, and if this is a good buddy of yours, you should just piss off this girl.
 

MacDiddy

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Lets cut the girl some slack....Everyone forgets that its a two way street.. Plus shes a grown adult.

If you must think strategically, I would not inform your friend of your intentions inorder to prevent sabotage... (which I gaurantee will happen)
 

Sirducer

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Dont **** where you eat. You gotta be a loser AFC to go after a mates sis... out of all the chicks out there, why would you even consider it?

Ive seen too many of guys I know go after their mates GFs, only to break up later and then the guy stops visiting his mates place cos hes too embarrased!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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