"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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friends or more than friends?

mojo16

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ok i text hb 8 or 9 quite a lot. lately she has been saying some things in her texts which make me wonder is she likes me....

last night we were texting until i went out, at which point she texted last, expected a reply but didnt get one. about 2 hours later i got the following text from her:

ok im probably the biggest loser texting you without you having replied but, im going to bed and wanted to text you before then. Um, thanks for being the bestest friend anyone could have. haha i know you only asked if i was okay but i dont normally get so upset and i probably would have gone crazy if you weren't there to talk to!
and pretty much you dont even have to try, you just make me go from being in the ****test mood to being happy again! so thankyou! goodnight :)

i replied to her the next day saying yes, you are a loser haha and sorry i didnt reply because i was out. then i mocked her for being head over heels for me etc. (she replied 'you wish jelly fish')

anyway, does she have feelings for me or is it possible she just thinks of us as really good friends? i really cannot tell :S she always calls me 'friend' which confuses me!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ease

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She doesnt like you.

Your her girlfriend.

Why you would want this is beyond me. This type of 'your the best friend ever' is very emasculating to me.

When your just 'friends' with a girl, you still can never help her with her problems. You must always be an assh*le or else you will become a girlfriend. Being the assh*le she flirts with when she is bored is 10 times better than being the boy-girlfriend that she gets AFC attention from.
 

HariPoter13

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From what I can see, she is responding well to your teasing. Just keep it up. And remember - KINO!

P.S. Dont let the 'friend' thing put you off. Just play along.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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f283000

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This is what you get for
1. Having female friends
2. Not pushing the envelope from the beginning so you don't end up confusing her and ending up in the friend zone

If you like a girl push the envelope from the beginning. Don't try to be her friend you need to try to become her lover. If she has no interest she will let you know and you can move on. You have let this keep going on for so long that she would probably push you away as a lover to keep you as a friend. This is what happens like 98% of the time and it's your fault for letting it get this way.

Now you are one of her girlfriends who makes her feel good about herself. Is this what you want out of women? Or do you want to be f__ them? You need to make up your mind. Stop being friends to girls and instead make your intentions known early on.
 

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My first impression was that you've been friendzoned and that still may be true. But as a couple of others have said just keep teasing her and see where it goes. Raise up your banter and throw in some innuendo. See how she responds to it.

Don't worry about if she likes you or not. If you amplify what you are doing, she will make it clear to you.
 

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if you keep txtin her and not take her out on a real date, you're going to dock your ship in her friendzone harbor. forever.
 

Ice882

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\its FZ with a tiny bit of wiggle room.
 

Joe Stud

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start being a little less available, and when you do interface.. be a bit of an a$$hole. these gents are right, you are tettering on falling into the FZ abyss
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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if you hang out at the same places, get drunk together. sure fire way of knowing.
 

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Ease said:
She doesnt like you.

Your her girlfriend.
Yeah,I'm with Ease on this one. The simple fact that you even have to wonder about this means that YOU haven't been upfront and clear about you having an interest in her.




Also,that thing she said about how you how she would go crazy if you weren't there "to talk to" suggest a girlfriend relationship between you two.




And what she said about how she goes from a sh!tty mood to being happy again after speaking to you.....no. She ain't gonna give that up.




That'll come in handy for when she has a boyfriend who mistreats her or causes her some sort of emotional issue. She can run to you and you can make it all better again for her.



Ease said:
When your just 'friends' with a girl, you still can never help her with her problems. You must always be an assh*le or else you will become a girlfriend. Being the assh*le she flirts with when she is bored is 10 times better than being the boy-girlfriend that she gets AFC attention from.
Unfortunately....this is true as well.
 
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