"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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thegator39

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I tried to get game this girl on pof...and would "be nice" to her...message her every few months and ask her how she's been, try to be friendly, even though she rejected me and blocked me once (I was desperate and do stupid sh*t on the computer sometimes.) So I was on pof and saw her profile pop up and chose to message her and mention that her good friend (male) lives down the street from me and we played basketball...trying pathetically to use the mutual friend as social proof, and told her she should come by and watch us next time.

I'm wondering a few things:

1.)If this got back to my neighbor, would the woman in question exaggerate to him and make sh*t up, or would she simply say "Do you know The Gator...he was trying to pick me up?"

2.)Regardless, would him and my other new male acquaintences (that also know her) judge me for this or think I'm some kind of creep for online gaming a woman?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Warrior74

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thegator39 said:
I tried to get game this girl on pof...and would "be nice" to her...message her every few months and ask her how she's been, try to be friendly, even though she rejected me and blocked me once (I was desperate and do stupid sh*t on the computer sometimes.) So I was on pof and saw her profile pop up and chose to message her and mention that her good friend (male) lives down the street from me and we played basketball...trying pathetically to use the mutual friend as social proof, and told her she should come by and watch us next time.

I'm wondering a few things:

1.)If this got back to my neighbor, would the woman in question exaggerate to him and make sh*t up, or would she simply say "Do you know The Gator...he was trying to pick me up?"

2.)Regardless, would him and my other new male acquaintences (that also know her) judge me for this or think I'm some kind of creep for online gaming a woman?
1. Who can say? That's a question no one can answer honestly. What's done is done.

2. Again, what's done is done. Who can say?

The problem is, you know deep down that you think that you fvcked up. That is your truest belief in this situation. You believe you made a mistake. And in that belief the only result you see is that you will be punished for your mistake. This is your belief system in this situation. Tell me that it's not. Look deep inside your mind and ask yourself do you feel proud of your action and think that you are worthy because of this.

Now. I'm not judging your action. I am talking about what YOU believe and why you posted the questions you did in the way you did. Your questions come off as someone who is looking for absolution. You fear a bad result and you want someone to settle your fears. Am I wrong? I maybe, I doubt you would tell me if I were right though.

What's done is done, who can say what will happen? And life goes on regardless. That is your truest answer.
 

joe henny

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dog pof is a dating site not a social networking site. Messaging her every few months won't do crap. If she rejected you once then why would you try again?
 

Warrior74

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thegator39 said:
Good stuff as usual, Warrior.

The hardest thing to change is your belief system. I've been thinking about that alot lately and how our beliefs shape our actions. Sometimes beliefs are so ingrained we think of them as facts or just the way the world works. We fail to question them and examine them and redefine them. It's hard freaking work. Especially with no outside influence.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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