"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Jake_tha_Boss

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theres this girl named HB Brooke any way i started hanging out with her last fall mid- october to early december wen she got a boyfriend,then up until late february we didnt hang out an only saw each other every now an then at school
recently we started chillin again, however she was sayin we were "best friends"
and lately shes been callin me her brother, i still wanna get with her but i have a gut feeling all is lost because i seem to be WAY too far in the friend zone an there is no hope of anything ever happening, ive thought of tryin the FWB road with her but idk that much about it please help
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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We're gonna need a little more detail.. When you hang out, is there any kino, any sexual escalation?
 

Jake_tha_Boss

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No not real a hug here or there but not much else any she been partyin with us but at times i feel like she jus a moochin ***** cuz she is jus bein friendly an partyin on our bill (me an my friends that is) shell usually have this chick named ashley one of my friends is talkin to i really wanna beleive i can fix my fvck up but i have a gut feeling im too far
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah man, if you've known her and hung with her since October, and all the physical contact she's gotten from you is hugs, she's going to see you as a friend. Notice the physicality between a girl and her closest friends. You'll notice it's usually hugs all around, stuff like that. If you act like her friend, she'll have it engraved in her mind that that's all you want or will ever need to be.
 

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well say i were to stop all contact with her for a few months again then come back on stronger in after that would that work?
 

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Well decided on gettin smart and ditchin that ***** like an old couch she aint worth the effort
 

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I've learned the hard way, once she calls you her brother you're fvcked. It's hard to get out, so you might as well just move on to the next.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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DJ_Hero said:
I used to believe in the friend zone, and I was actually put in it by some girls. But you can avoid it and it's simple. If you treat a girl like a friend, guess what? She will become your friend. You have to be naturally very sexual and never treat any girl as a friend (unless a whale is becoming attracted to you).

I've at least made out with about 5 people in my social circle who would have been considered my friend. If you believe you're in the friend zone then I'm sorry, but you are.

Try a throw a few sexual innuendos into conversation. At first the girl might be like "Ew!" or "Stop it :p" but in jest. If you keep it up, you will see her true colours. She will either become very receptive or she will tell you straight up to stop. If it's the latter then this will be you.
I agree with your post man. Sometimes it may be hard being or saying more sexual things if it's not what you are used to but if you look at the guys in school who would be considered a "player or ladies man" they will most likely be more sexual than the average guy. If I were you I'd still talk to her, if you think you have no shot you could still be her friend. Trust me man I have been friends with a girl who is gorgeous and we have been just friends for a while but sometimes I'll hit her up for advice. Plus you get introduced to new hot chicks you wouldn't have met without her help. But fortunately for me, she asked me to prom and I kept it sexual all night with dancing and the afterparties (till 5 a.m.) ;) So just keep her as a friend if you know you don't have a shot at getting her and maybe she will see you in a different light once she sees you with different girls.
 
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