"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jake_tha_Boss

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theres this girl named HB Brooke any way i started hanging out with her last fall mid- october to early december wen she got a boyfriend,then up until late february we didnt hang out an only saw each other every now an then at school
recently we started chillin again, however she was sayin we were "best friends"
and lately shes been callin me her brother, i still wanna get with her but i have a gut feeling all is lost because i seem to be WAY too far in the friend zone an there is no hope of anything ever happening, ive thought of tryin the FWB road with her but idk that much about it please help
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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We're gonna need a little more detail.. When you hang out, is there any kino, any sexual escalation?
 

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No not real a hug here or there but not much else any she been partyin with us but at times i feel like she jus a moochin ***** cuz she is jus bein friendly an partyin on our bill (me an my friends that is) shell usually have this chick named ashley one of my friends is talkin to i really wanna beleive i can fix my fvck up but i have a gut feeling im too far
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah man, if you've known her and hung with her since October, and all the physical contact she's gotten from you is hugs, she's going to see you as a friend. Notice the physicality between a girl and her closest friends. You'll notice it's usually hugs all around, stuff like that. If you act like her friend, she'll have it engraved in her mind that that's all you want or will ever need to be.
 

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well say i were to stop all contact with her for a few months again then come back on stronger in after that would that work?
 

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Well decided on gettin smart and ditchin that ***** like an old couch she aint worth the effort
 

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I've learned the hard way, once she calls you her brother you're fvcked. It's hard to get out, so you might as well just move on to the next.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DJ_Hero said:
I used to believe in the friend zone, and I was actually put in it by some girls. But you can avoid it and it's simple. If you treat a girl like a friend, guess what? She will become your friend. You have to be naturally very sexual and never treat any girl as a friend (unless a whale is becoming attracted to you).

I've at least made out with about 5 people in my social circle who would have been considered my friend. If you believe you're in the friend zone then I'm sorry, but you are.

Try a throw a few sexual innuendos into conversation. At first the girl might be like "Ew!" or "Stop it :p" but in jest. If you keep it up, you will see her true colours. She will either become very receptive or she will tell you straight up to stop. If it's the latter then this will be you.
I agree with your post man. Sometimes it may be hard being or saying more sexual things if it's not what you are used to but if you look at the guys in school who would be considered a "player or ladies man" they will most likely be more sexual than the average guy. If I were you I'd still talk to her, if you think you have no shot you could still be her friend. Trust me man I have been friends with a girl who is gorgeous and we have been just friends for a while but sometimes I'll hit her up for advice. Plus you get introduced to new hot chicks you wouldn't have met without her help. But fortunately for me, she asked me to prom and I kept it sexual all night with dancing and the afterparties (till 5 a.m.) ;) So just keep her as a friend if you know you don't have a shot at getting her and maybe she will see you in a different light once she sees you with different girls.
 
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