"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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crossfitter

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Got a phone call from a good friend/co-worker today that left me at a loss of words initially. Back drop, it was an 12 year HS relationship that developed to marriage and a newborn that's 5 months old. Nice guy, "good" wife for whatever thats worth. The phone call started off with he's getting divorced. After some talking with him, seems "they" attempted to work on it for 5 or so months and she just said she was done. I have an understanding of why things resulted but never once mentioned it. He's completely unaware. There was an agreement to not see anyone else during the divorce which pains me. He's still talking about eventually getting back together through time. My problem rests in how do I help him in the best way possible? Do I present reality or guide?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sounds similar to what I went through with my first wife. She got postpartum depression after our daughter was born and it was over. Your friend needs to come to this site and start reading. And the hell with not seeing anybody else once she has said she wants a divorce he is a free man. If a marriage agreement isn't strong enough to keep the woman with the man for better or for worse then why in the hell should it matter now? This is a classic scenario. I see many of my buddies going through this in the future.
 

Scaramouche

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Dear Cross Fitter,
Just talk to the poor fellow...His married friends in the main will shun him,just provide a "Wailing Wall" for him!
 
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