"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Friend in love with girl who has a bf and just wants fun

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So i have this friend who through work met a girl (both in early twenties) shes attractive and nice but .... has a bf
Things slowly started proggressing and now theyre daily texting and calling and going out sometimes .... i told him to smash and move on she aint wifey material he said its cool and he doesnt love her fast forward.... 2 weeks later hes all like " i think i love her " .

Its obvious she aint loyal and he even told me she has no problem flirting with many men plus she made out with him despite having a bf , he looks scared to escalate even though shes been practically inviting him to f*ck her .... he sometimes mentions how she is not a "ho" after i call her that but deep down he knkws iam right ... iam no little kid and iam kinda in a similar situation atm and love is not on the menue for such girls ....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Tips for your friend

1. Don't sh*t where you eat.
2. Oneitis is related to infatuation.
3. Women are abundant.
4. A scarcity mentality will bring you down to your knees.
 
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He deserves her. Maybe he'll understand when she does the same thing to him. Fvck 'em both.
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Sometimes people will only learn the hard way. Fools.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mrmuscles2 said:
So i have this friend who through work met a girl (both in early twenties) shes attractive and nice but .... has a bf
Things slowly started proggressing and now theyre daily texting and calling and going out sometimes .... i told him to smash and move on she aint wifey material he said its cool and he doesnt love her fast forward.... 2 weeks later hes all like " i think i love her " .

Its obvious she aint loyal and he even told me she has no problem flirting with many men plus she made out with him despite having a bf , he looks scared to escalate even though shes been practically inviting him to f*ck her .... he sometimes mentions how she is not a "ho" after i call her that but deep down he knkws iam right ... iam no little kid and iam kinda in a similar situation atm and love is not on the menue for such girls ....
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This happens all the time.

No mystery here.

Your friend has made a conscious choice to take up a taken woman. It's his bed to lie in.

You did your bit to advice him.
 
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I guess we will see your friend posting here in a few weeks. I will save him a spot on this forum.
 
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Mazer said:
I guess we will see your friend posting here in a few weeks. I will save him a spot on this forum.
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HAHA yep. "Help me guys I fvcked this chick from work who had a BF and she regretted it the next day. Told her boyfriend who talked her into getting a protection order on me and accused me of raping her. Then work found out and i got fired. All over one fvck. Help!"
 
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HAHA yep. "Help me guys I fvcked this chick from work who had a BF and she regretted it the next day. Told her boyfriend who talked her into getting a protection order on me and accused me of raping her. Then work found out and i got fired. All over one fvck. Help!"
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I think that's a little paranoid

The likely scenario is OP's friend being heart broken either in the near future when he realizes he was some slvt's plaything or in the far future when he realizes that he isn't special and that she just doesn't respect relationships/committment when he catches her fvcking another guy
 
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This is why I don't try and mess around with girls with bfs. The only way it can 'work out' is if you can give absolutely zero ****s about her and don't care at all about where it goes. Trying to make it into something more is just a trap - as if she can do this to her current boyfriend, you better believe she'll do it to you.

I find girls with bfs (who are this way) are more flirty as well than normal. More carefree, fun, exciting. I think it's because they're not as invested (they got their backup boyfriend). So they might seem more attractive than the normal girl flirting.

Sucks for your friend, since he's attached to her now ('in love'). Let's hope he smartens up, and in my opinion, back up and distance the heck away from her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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devilkingx2 said:
I think that's a little paranoid

The likely scenario is OP's friend being heart broken either in the near future when he realizes he was some slvt's plaything or in the far future when he realizes that he isn't special and that she just doesn't respect relationships/committment when he catches her fvcking another guy
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I might agree with you on "overly cautious" or "extreme caution", but I won't agree with "paranoid".
 
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RedScorpion said:
This is why I don't try and mess around with girls with bfs. The only way it can 'work out' is if you can give absolutely zero ****s about her and don't care at all about where it goes. Trying to make it into something more is just a trap - as if she can do this to her current boyfriend, you better believe she'll do it to you.

I find girls with bfs (who are this way) are more flirty as well than normal. More carefree, fun, exciting. I think it's because they're not as invested (they got their backup boyfriend). So they might seem more attractive than the normal girl flirting.

Sucks for your friend, since he's attached to her now ('in love'). Let's hope he smartens up, and in my opinion, back up and distance the heck away from her.
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I found females who did this would do it to anyone. Also your not special for her to hit on you. She'll do about anyone. At least flirt them.
 
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logicallefty said:
I might agree with you on "overly cautious" or "extreme caution", but I won't agree with "paranoid".
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The odds of it going as far as a false rape dilemma that gets you fired is kind of low. Not low enough that it's not a serious concern, not low enough that it's worth the risk. But low enough that it shouldn't be ones primary concern in this situation

Lets say, 3% chance of a false rape dilemma getting him fired, 50% chance this girl will add extreme drama now, 50% chance she'll do it later.

I'd say it's like your odds of getting murdered, something you should be aware of and prepare to avoid, but not something one should live in fear of
 
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