"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
French Kissing. I dont always Like it. WEIRD ??
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Jus_LikeCandy
Banned
spider_007
Master Don Juan
I also keep my eyes SLIGHTLY OPEN. It feels better, (can't explain it)
Mister Big
Don Juan
When you NEXT these chicks that gross you out by frenching, pass them my way. I don't mind it at all.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
If you ever see the movie Face/Off, John Travolta got the right idea when he told the flight attended: "see my tounge?? Suck on it!!" - you then stick out your tounge and she will suck on it like she would your c0ck. That should turn you on.
Considering your lips are ten times more sensitive than your tongue, you can actually achieve better results without using your tongue at all. Honestly, I enjoy kissing without tongue more than I do with. If she can't stand it, well, then you're not doing things right.
The Bartender
Senior Don Juan
Mister Big
Don Juan
I am big on kissing and have nexted all women who can't do this well. I have been grossed out by tongue action a few times when the chick kept her tongue real hard and pushed it deep inside my mouth. Major turnoff for both men and women I assume.
I have full lips that women always compliment me on. I use them at lot when I kiss. Women like to use their lips when kissing, so suck and nibble on them. They are very sensitive. Kissing should always start with the lips, softer to harder, unless she is totally horny. Then you just follow her pace and mirror her. If a woman has very thin lips, tongues are absolutely required. Swirling and sucking on a tongue is fun because each person gets to work on the others tongue. It does foreshadow her sucking on your c*ck and thus creates great anticipation for oral sex.
My approach is lips first, tongues second. If you're turned off by using your tongue at all, you should think about the above and try it. You are missing out.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
duke007
Master Don Juan
She always has her mouth wide open so I can barely kiss her properly. Last night I joked (semi seriously), "I bet you can't kiss with your mouth closed for more than 2 seconds"
So I finally got her to kiss properly, which was nice, but then she opens her mouth wide again and shoves the tongue in
I need to teach her but I don't know how to go about it. She's 23...she really should know by now dammmit!
Was just like... 'dammit, put that thing away for a minute woman!'
Playing follow the leader is always fun. Just suggested taking it slow... taking turns with tongues.... letting me explore first, treating her like a bad baby if she messes up, etc.
They think by default that they cant get a simple thing like kissing wrong, and get taken aback when someone steps in and points it out, and teaches.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
TUNG = GROSS
Mister Big
Don Juan
GrimPhallic
Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
flyinshark
Senior Don Juan
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Well I guess she could take random guys into dark passage ways, choke them with her toung and we take their wallets...my god it's genious!
I'm gonna be rich!!!!!
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.