"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Bat said:
Lol @ what tssme said about sudden change in food type...

Vlad, man you have got to live up to your name and start impaling this girl with your penis. It's interesting the double standard at play here...let's say it were you who was done early and wanted to eat and go to sleep...what would have happened? Oh yes you know it..she would've spilled all of that rice and soy sauce all over your bed and stormed out the door.

You on the other hand are confused and expecting a better sex in the morning...or some other time.

Now is the time to up the ante. She failed to meet one of your standards (porn star sex) so she needs to qualify herself to you now. You have to let her know that you were disappointed in her that she didn't bang your brains out for more than 5 mins. If she says it was the alcohol and smoking, give her the benefit of doubt BUT let her know that she isn't off the hook.

You got to figure out your expectation and enforce them accordingly. I'm assuming "great porn star sex" is one of your expectations out of a plate...so, now is the time to enforce it. Be careful though. Don't FORCE her to give you good sex. As Rollo would say, you can't negotiate genuine desire. Just be assertive in letting her know that you're very disappointed in her although you're willing to give one more chance if she is willing.

Alright! She finally cracked last night. After I let her calls roll to voice mail again she starts texting "me why are you not answering my calls??"

So I remembered your post Bat, and replied "because I am disapointed in the way you have been with me."

She goes:

"Why??" and then "Sorry"

So I said the classic line "I'll let you make it up to me"

Then she goes "I'm traveling this weekend, do you even care?"

I never responded. How should I play it if I see her and she starts asking about this??
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Alright! She finally cracked last night. After I let her calls roll to voice mail again she starts texting "me why are you not answering my calls??"

So I remembered your post Bat, and replied "because I am disapointed in the way you have been with me."

She goes:

"Why??" and then "Sorry"

So I said the classic line "I'll let you make it up to me"

Then she goes "I'm traveling this weekend, do you even care?"

I never responded. How should I play it if I see her and she starts asking about this??
Hmm. Not bad response. What are your dissapointments with her? The lack of nookie?
 
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Hmm. Not bad response. What are your dissapointments with her? The lack of nookie?

Pretty much. Did you see some of the stuff she pulled? I'm tempted to tell her to get a one way ticket to wherever the hell she is traveling too.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Pretty much. Did you see some of the stuff she pulled? I'm tempted to tell her to get a one way ticket to wherever the hell she is traveling too.
Yeah. It's obviously up to you, I think this is a good example of a situation where you are the prize. You've built up some sexual tension and have ignored her, so this is probably a good last chance for her to show you the level of physical intimacy you deserve.

Or, you can next her. I don't know if she's worth your time anymore or not, your call.
 

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Looking at my above post, I think I've not communicated my opinion fully. PErsonally, I've never been in bed with a girl who's been dominant. I am always the dominant force when it comes to physical intimacy, and I think women like that. You need to be sexual, and if she is really attracted to you as she should be, she will reciprocate. Excite her and see if she takes the bait.

If she doesn't do so now with the tension that's been built and before she leaves town, she will never do so.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Alright! She finally cracked last night. After I let her calls roll to voice mail again she starts texting "me why are you not answering my calls??"

So I remembered your post Bat, and replied "because I am disapointed in the way you have been with me."

She goes:

"Why??" and then "Sorry"

So I said the classic line "I'll let you make it up to me"

Then she goes "I'm traveling this weekend, do you even care?"

I never responded. How should I play it if I see her and she starts asking about this??
Tell her - "I am getting a feeling you used me for sex" - Just put yourself in a hot HB 10s shoes and put her on the spot... because if you dont.. she'll walk all over you..
 
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Rhoto said:
Tell her you don't care. IF you tell her anything.

I went to see her today but I only had 10 minutes to spare. She asked if I'm upset with her and I played it off like I didn't care. She was all over me saying she missed me but nothing sexual, as usual. Yawn... this chic does nothing for me.. she doesn't even improve my mood. I'll keep her around just for the hell of it because I don't have many other plates right now.
 

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I just read this whole thread and I didn't see you post much in the form of sexual advances. Is your kino weak? Do you come across as asexual?

She's comfortable and she's being very "nice" in a cute and boring sort of way. You don't want that you want her to actually try f*cking you a bit and she's not.

When she first saw you she was sexed up in a miniskirt... Now she just wants to cuddle.

I'm not sure if this is salvageable. She's not working to satisfy you sexually.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
I went to see her today but I only had 10 minutes to spare. She asked if I'm upset with her and I played it off like I didn't care. She was all over me saying she missed me but nothing sexual, as usual. Yawn... this chic does nothing for me.. she doesn't even improve my mood. I'll keep her around just for the hell of it because I don't have many other plates right now.

Sounds like a next is in order. But don't burn the bridge just yet, arm the C4.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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