"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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slitherjef

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Well, tonight after work, I had a coffee date with that cute 7 from work. We walked up to starbucks, chatting along the way. She started talking about work, I changed the subject after a couple minutes to focus on her as we walked. Once we got to the coffee shop I asked how we should handle this, then I said, "I got this round, you get the next one". We ordered, I paid, got got our drinks and went to have a set on the sofa.

We sat down at the ends of the couch, I was on one end, she on the other facing at an angle from each other, mostly facing forward. (now that I think of it, not so sure this was a good sign) but we talked, I asked most of the questions, relating when I could. Got her to laugh here and there, even poking a little fun at her. I say I got her to do about 90% of the talking. There was some eye contact. While talking I kept my focus on her, I mean, looking at her. I was a bit nervous, there was brief periods of quietness, but nothing longer then say 15 seconds. I was relaxed, was sitting back, had my arm on the back of the couch, facing her general direction most of the time.

At one point of the conversation she said she don't back down from dares I shot her a sly smile and replied, "Hmmm... that is an interesting piece of information to have" she said might not be the best thing to be telling people :D

We finish up our drinks and I tell her I would walk her back up to the store where her bike was, I was headed that way anyway. Walking back we talked more, asking her what type of music she liked and we had a good conversation about that.

I walked her back to her bike and wrapped things up for the "Date" I was leaning on the bike rack, got up, told her I had fun, walked over to her and gave her a hug. One handed hug. She gave me a hug back, said she had fun. Told her I would see her tomorrow at work. As I walked away, I told her I was going to dare her to cook for me :) she smiled

All in all, I realize I made a few errors. But it was my first date. Ever. I hope none of the mistakes where glaring ones. I failed to do any kino until the end of the date, but since I work around her, I did not want to come accross as some horny b@stard who only wanted one thing. And she was sitting on the other end of the couch. Or so those where the excuses I used to my self. At least I did not shake her hand LOL

I realize I may just friendzoned, but its all good. I will try for a 2nd date, see if I can get her to cook for me and we can watch a movie at her place. If date two happens I will escalate things - kiss close.

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A few quick after thoughts. I was nervous, but I met up with her, all that went away. If things don't pan out with her, like if I get LJBFs I just proved to MYSELF that I CAN actualy get a girl to go out with me.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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slitherjef said:
...We finish up our drinks and I tell her I would walk her back up to the store where her bike was, ....
Uhhhhh..... Her bike? You don't work at a grade school do you? Just thought it would be good to get that clarified... :cool:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Uhhhhh..... Her bike? You don't work at a grade school do you? Just thought it would be good to get that clarified... :cool:
No. Nothing like that. She bikes to work. We work at a grocery store. :rolleyes: Its a job :)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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:up: "I'll Dare you to cook for me" ... Suggestive! Very Nice!
 

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Good work - you've got good potential to go far.

Now some of your aims to progress should be to spark womens emotions during your time with them.

Definately touch when you can - it makes them feel comfortable.

The MOST important thing I wish someone had told me 5 yars ago when wth women is have fun no matter what, with whoever, whenever. Have fun and you cant go wrong.
 

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zerocelcius said:
:up: "I'll Dare you to cook for me" ... Suggestive! Very Nice!
Not taking away from slitherjef's successful date, but she just smiled; she didn't say she should. Also, progression is good but I'm wondering about the level of mutual comfort that existed to go from the first date to her cooking dinner for him. Perhaps that's why she just smiled and didn't give a definitive answer.
 

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Awesome Job for you first date ever Slitherjef!

I think you did everything REALLY well for the lack of experience that you've had. At least your not on her begging us to help you keep her because you must have her and you just made some terrible AFC mistakes that had her friendzoning you!! Hahaha, I seem to be seeing a lot of those kinda posts around here.

Anyways, great job...keep it up.
 

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I did see her today, she seemed like she usualy does with me. I ran into her going into work, I asked her where she was going, she told me subway. I said ah and we went on our ways. For a moment there, I actualy thought about tagging along with her, but decided not to.

Today was her last day of work for about a week. I did not go over to her or say much aside from when I ran into her in the back room and made a bit of small talk with her, asking if she was getting excited about her trip. Asked a couple questions about how she was traveling, which was car, train, plane. I made a joke telling her she needed a boat in there too. She smiled and kind of laughed. I started off and told her to have a safe, fun trip... she replied, "What!?" as she had gone into the freezer, and I repeated my self, Slowing down just a bit, Told her to have a nice safe trip, I would see her when she got back. She said yes, shaking her head yes a little bit as well.

I see her a few moments before she exits the store as I was chatting with someone else and says, "Bye" (to both of us).

I WILL attempt a second date when she gets back, well when she is back for a couple days. Maybe ask her when she is going to show off her cooking skills to me.

Right now, I believe getting a 2nd date is key. If I do get one, then I know I done something right on the first date. That and I also want to escalate things
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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For a moment there, I actualy thought about tagging along with her, but decided not to.

Score another point for you. Good job.

Don't sit around and think about her all week. Go talk to other girls. But you are doing well, keep it up.
 
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