"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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FR: Two set, successful number close

young_gun

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ElStud said:
Well really I don't "ask" for the number, I just say "I'm gonna call you" give her the phone and do that sh*t. Agreed, numbers don't mean sh*t and yeah, but again, it's success. Sure I didn't any F close, but hey, got nothing good to say, you don't need to post. It's a number close, make of it what you will.
LOL, I thought maybe this would be the first thread where you didn't say something along the lines of "don't have anything good to say, don't post" or "Shut the fvck up, I get numbers and you don't". Don't take everything so personally, El Dud-ski.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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It's just that the board is so "impositive" though and you got to f*cking have sex with a b*tch to get any kind of respect around here. Half the people criticizing me probably struggle with numbers anyway.
 

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LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
 

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ElStud said:
It's just that the board is so "impositive" though and you got to f*cking have sex with a b*tch to get any kind of respect around here. Half the people criticizing me probably struggle with numbers anyway.
Enough with you and compaining about the board. Bottom line, will you call this chick and try to set up a date? You come on here talking about the numbers you get, but have you once even tried setting something up by calling one of these girls?

SO... you know what you need to do to move this forward, will you do this, or just continue posting how you get numbers and throw a ***** fit when someone says they aren't ****?
 

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young_gun said:
LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
That seems to be all he does on this site. Come on and brag about getting a number, ignore anyone who says call the girl and just posts whiny replies to people who say the number means nothing. Watch, he will respond to my previous post that i'm not being positive towards him, and totally ignore my question as to whether he will call the girl.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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young_gun said:
LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
Read. I said numbers didn't mean much in an earlier post. But the point is, you aint gonna say anything positive or helpful then shush. If you're just going to criticize me on how this is bad because I didn't F-close, then just stop right there.
 

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HAHA @ ElStud

Sorry, Mr. Dating Expert, didn't mean to step on your toes. Sorry I'm criticizing you for not getting a hug and playing with their hair and calling them your "little sister". Maybe you should come out with an e-book of everything you know. I bet you would put Mystery and DYD out of business.
 

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Elstud, are you going to call the girl? Nothing negative there, just a simple question.
 

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Elstud, are you going to call the girl? Nothing negative there, just a simple question.
lol already got her voice mail, but lol atleast that confirms it's real. I'll call her again later.
 

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lol already got her voice mail, but lol atleast that confirms it's real. I'll call her again later.
I didn't mean so quick, but at least you took action. If you are going to call again I would say wait a couple of days so you don't look desperate with this chick.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DonGorgon said:
Not to hate on your strategy , but number closing is very over rated in 2008... most women will give almost anyone their number then screen out the suiters later on..... So the thing to focus on is getting a make out session or and F close..

I have many friends with over 100 girls number sin their phones and they have only F'ed around 4 or 5 of them.. They focus too much on just getting the number..
+1

Rep for you. There's a good chance that's the most productive thing that is going to come out of this thread.
 

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Can the negative fu<ks please just stay away, you aren't helping anyone. This guy is trying to improve, yes he has a few quirky traits but if he can learn to use them positively, credit to him.
 
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