"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ElStud said:
Well really I don't "ask" for the number, I just say "I'm gonna call you" give her the phone and do that sh*t. Agreed, numbers don't mean sh*t and yeah, but again, it's success. Sure I didn't any F close, but hey, got nothing good to say, you don't need to post. It's a number close, make of it what you will.
LOL, I thought maybe this would be the first thread where you didn't say something along the lines of "don't have anything good to say, don't post" or "Shut the fvck up, I get numbers and you don't". Don't take everything so personally, El Dud-ski.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's just that the board is so "impositive" though and you got to f*cking have sex with a b*tch to get any kind of respect around here. Half the people criticizing me probably struggle with numbers anyway.
 

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LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
 

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ElStud said:
It's just that the board is so "impositive" though and you got to f*cking have sex with a b*tch to get any kind of respect around here. Half the people criticizing me probably struggle with numbers anyway.
Enough with you and compaining about the board. Bottom line, will you call this chick and try to set up a date? You come on here talking about the numbers you get, but have you once even tried setting something up by calling one of these girls?

SO... you know what you need to do to move this forward, will you do this, or just continue posting how you get numbers and throw a ***** fit when someone says they aren't ****?
 

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LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
That seems to be all he does on this site. Come on and brag about getting a number, ignore anyone who says call the girl and just posts whiny replies to people who say the number means nothing. Watch, he will respond to my previous post that i'm not being positive towards him, and totally ignore my question as to whether he will call the girl.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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young_gun said:
LOL, I don't think anyone criticizing you has problems getting numbers. You have failed to realize that getting a number from a girl is basically insignificant. Sure, you need to get a girl's number to make it go somewhere with her, but just because you get a phone number doesn't mean that it will go anywhere, and it doesn't make you some "dating guru". Girls with boyfriends will even give their numbers to you every so often.
Read. I said numbers didn't mean much in an earlier post. But the point is, you aint gonna say anything positive or helpful then shush. If you're just going to criticize me on how this is bad because I didn't F-close, then just stop right there.
 

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HAHA @ ElStud

Sorry, Mr. Dating Expert, didn't mean to step on your toes. Sorry I'm criticizing you for not getting a hug and playing with their hair and calling them your "little sister". Maybe you should come out with an e-book of everything you know. I bet you would put Mystery and DYD out of business.
 

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Elstud, are you going to call the girl? Nothing negative there, just a simple question.
 

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Elstud, are you going to call the girl? Nothing negative there, just a simple question.
lol already got her voice mail, but lol atleast that confirms it's real. I'll call her again later.
 

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lol already got her voice mail, but lol atleast that confirms it's real. I'll call her again later.
I didn't mean so quick, but at least you took action. If you are going to call again I would say wait a couple of days so you don't look desperate with this chick.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DonGorgon said:
Not to hate on your strategy , but number closing is very over rated in 2008... most women will give almost anyone their number then screen out the suiters later on..... So the thing to focus on is getting a make out session or and F close..

I have many friends with over 100 girls number sin their phones and they have only F'ed around 4 or 5 of them.. They focus too much on just getting the number..
+1

Rep for you. There's a good chance that's the most productive thing that is going to come out of this thread.
 

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Can the negative fu<ks please just stay away, you aren't helping anyone. This guy is trying to improve, yes he has a few quirky traits but if he can learn to use them positively, credit to him.
 
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