nicksaiz65
Master Don Juan
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Been running more consistent sessions lately and wanted to share two quick reports plus ask a logistics question. I’m doing all of these solo.
Most of my pulls historically have actually come from street approaches, so bar escalation is something I’m still calibrating.
Session 1 – Monday
Went out around 8:30 PM just to warm up and get some reps in.
Did about 5 approaches. Opened a few tables and group sets which is something I’m pushing myself to do more of.
One solid interaction was with a tourist from Michigan with her friend. I went for a margarita close and got her number. She mentioned she’s in town until Thursday staying with her aunt, so we’ll see if that goes anywhere.
But there was also an interaction that stuck in my head.
I did a street approach where the girl was very flirty and physical, so I suggested grabbing a drink. We went to the bar and I bought one.
Pretty quickly it became obvious she was working multiple guys for drinks. The interaction fizzled shortly after. Basically a $30 lesson learned.
Session 2 – Volume Night (Friday)
Next session I pushed the volume much higher and ended up doing about 30 approaches.
Big improvements compared to Monday:
- AA dropping fast
- approaching groups more comfortably
- opening stronger and more physical
- moving girls around the venue
Monday’s session definitely helped me loosen up socially.
Where the Issue Came Up
I started experimenting with stronger escalation.
The typical sequence looked like:
open strong → get physical → lead → bounce to bar
One set in particular:
I opened strong, got physical, and told her “come meet my friends” (I briefly winged another guy who was out gaming) as I started leading her across the club.
She seemed pretty receptive to my approach, and agreed to move.
But she was in a bachelorette-type group, and when we got near the bar she said something like:
“Sure! We need a drink!”
That’s when Monday’s experience popped into my head. It suddenly felt like this might turn into buying drinks for the whole group.
I hesitated and lost momentum.
The interaction kind of stalled, and when I bounced she seemed confused and said:
“Have a good night… I guess.”
Looking back, I’m trying to figure out what was actually happening in that moment.
Was she genuinely interested and I killed the interaction by hesitating, or was this likely a situation where the group was steering things toward drinks?
The Issue I’m Running Into
Since most of my pulls have come from street interactions, I usually don’t deal with the “buying drinks” dynamic.
But in nightlife, isolating often means moving to the bar. On one hand, some girls I’ve successfully pulled I did end up buying drinks for. On the other hand, I don’t want to get used.
Right now that concern is clearly getting in my head mid-interaction.
Despite that issue, the session still felt like a big step forward. AA is noticeably lower and I’m starting to lead interactions more instead of just chatting.
Total approaches: 30.
Question for guys running expensive nightlife venues
In situations like this, how do you tell whether the girl is actually interested or just steering things toward drinks?
Do you isolate somewhere other than the bar?
Avoid buying drinks entirely?
Wait until she invests first?
Bounce somewhere else in the venue?
Curious how guys who run venues like this deal with it.
Most of my pulls historically have actually come from street approaches, so bar escalation is something I’m still calibrating.
Session 1 – Monday
Went out around 8:30 PM just to warm up and get some reps in.
Did about 5 approaches. Opened a few tables and group sets which is something I’m pushing myself to do more of.
One solid interaction was with a tourist from Michigan with her friend. I went for a margarita close and got her number. She mentioned she’s in town until Thursday staying with her aunt, so we’ll see if that goes anywhere.
But there was also an interaction that stuck in my head.
I did a street approach where the girl was very flirty and physical, so I suggested grabbing a drink. We went to the bar and I bought one.
Pretty quickly it became obvious she was working multiple guys for drinks. The interaction fizzled shortly after. Basically a $30 lesson learned.
Session 2 – Volume Night (Friday)
Next session I pushed the volume much higher and ended up doing about 30 approaches.
Big improvements compared to Monday:
- AA dropping fast
- approaching groups more comfortably
- opening stronger and more physical
- moving girls around the venue
Monday’s session definitely helped me loosen up socially.
Where the Issue Came Up
I started experimenting with stronger escalation.
The typical sequence looked like:
open strong → get physical → lead → bounce to bar
One set in particular:
I opened strong, got physical, and told her “come meet my friends” (I briefly winged another guy who was out gaming) as I started leading her across the club.
She seemed pretty receptive to my approach, and agreed to move.
But she was in a bachelorette-type group, and when we got near the bar she said something like:
“Sure! We need a drink!”
That’s when Monday’s experience popped into my head. It suddenly felt like this might turn into buying drinks for the whole group.
I hesitated and lost momentum.
The interaction kind of stalled, and when I bounced she seemed confused and said:
“Have a good night… I guess.”
Looking back, I’m trying to figure out what was actually happening in that moment.
Was she genuinely interested and I killed the interaction by hesitating, or was this likely a situation where the group was steering things toward drinks?
The Issue I’m Running Into
Since most of my pulls have come from street interactions, I usually don’t deal with the “buying drinks” dynamic.
But in nightlife, isolating often means moving to the bar. On one hand, some girls I’ve successfully pulled I did end up buying drinks for. On the other hand, I don’t want to get used.
Right now that concern is clearly getting in my head mid-interaction.
Despite that issue, the session still felt like a big step forward. AA is noticeably lower and I’m starting to lead interactions more instead of just chatting.
Total approaches: 30.
Question for guys running expensive nightlife venues
In situations like this, how do you tell whether the girl is actually interested or just steering things toward drinks?
Do you isolate somewhere other than the bar?
Avoid buying drinks entirely?
Wait until she invests first?
Bounce somewhere else in the venue?
Curious how guys who run venues like this deal with it.
