"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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FR: Today's approaches.

ElStud

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Maxtro said:
ELstud how long have you been doing this cold approach thing? I saw one of your old approach threads dated May or something.

It's obvious that you don't have approach anxiety anymore. Good, great, wonderful. Move on to the next step. Start trying to close. Until then please don't make another thread that doesn't have you trying to close in it.

And just in case you were wondering. I attempted to # close a cute girl in my gym today. She told me shes been staying as a guest with some people and didn't have a number. She asked for my number instead. I'm not expecting her to call but I at least took the risk to ask her out.

No risk, no reward.
If I close I close, if I don't, I don't. FR's are FR's and I'm not just going to stop posting FR's just because I didn't number close. That's stupid. I post FR's to keep track of my approaches and to possibly get advice on how I could do better. But hah, don't post an FR until I close? That's dumb. Of course I'll close chicks, but see I don't go in sets thinking "OMG! NUMBER NUMBER, I NEED TO GET THE NUMBER", no I go in there having fun and I'm not even thinking about the number. If things escalate and she seems pretty interesting, sure I'll ask, but I don't go into sets expecting or even wanting the numbers of all the girls I approach. I'm definitely going to try and escalate things with the Jacquie chick tommorow though.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Kev07

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Calm down with the KBJ calling here, dude was just asking you a simple question.


And yeah, pretty much what maxtro said, you already know my view on your approaches elstud, you need to close something, anything, because as of right now, your "FRs", as far as what i can see, are just daily conversations.
 

Grand Wizzard Alamar

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#close signals the girl that you're interested.
a lot of guys don't have the balls to do this anyway, so you'll stand out like that.
 

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If anyone's a KBJ it's you. You're the one who types up 3-4 standard conversations from your lunch break each day.

I think you should use the time you spend writing your FR's to look around some tips and advice in the forum.
 

ElStud

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dav22 said:
If anyone's a KBJ it's you. You're the one who types up 3-4 standard conversations from your lunch break each day.

I think you should use the time you spend writing your FR's to look around some tips and advice in the forum.
I'm sorry man but you're an idiot. Do you even know what KBJ means? Keyboard Jockie, as in someone who brags but has no proof at all of even going out and doing sh1t. I've got tons of PROOF that I actually go out and do sh1t. Learn what something means before you go using it incorrectly. And where's your proof of success or even going out there in the field and trying? Nowhere to be found. Besides, it's rather dumb to accuse me of being a KBJ, when you're the one who shows KBJ traits and I show no KBJ traits. YOU have no proof of going out there and doing sh1t, yet you give people advice and act like you know what you're talking about. I actually go out there and have proof that I do sh1t and I don't try to act like I'm better than I actually am like you.

And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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HandyAndy

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ElStud said:
I'm sorry man but you're an idiot. Do you even know what KBJ means? Keyboard Jockie, as in someone who brags but has no proof at all of even going out and doing sh1t. I've got tons of PROOF that I actually go out and do sh1t. Learn what something means before you go using it incorrectly. And where's your proof of success or even going out there in the field and trying? Nowhere to be found. Besides, it's rather dumb to accuse me of being a KBJ, when you're the one who shows KBJ traits and I show no KBJ traits. YOU have no proof of going out there and doing sh1t, yet you give people advice and act like you know what you're talking about. I actually go out there and have proof that I do sh1t and I don't try to act like I'm better than I actually am like you.

And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.

Stop asking ppl where their proof of success is, you are UNSUCCESSFUL in every FR youve posted, and when i turned the question back on you in the previous page, you quickly changed the subject because you knew i was right.
 

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ElStud said:
And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.
Good, now you are thinking outside the box. Start asking these girls if they want to get together after school. Go chill with them at the towns cool local place.

It's great that you've come this far and only at 17 but you have to keep progressing. I really don't think you will be happy with nothing but random conversations for the next few months.

Next time you do an approach remember to have fun. But try to do at least one of these.

  • Arrange a casual hang out "date"
  • Get her number
  • Kiss her
 

dav22

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I don't need to prove anything because i couldn't give a **** if you think i'm sucessful or not. The bottomline is that people are giving you advice and regardless of their sucess level, it can still be very valid - sometimes even more so as they would have encountered failures similar to yours.
 
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