"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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FR: Today's approaches.

ElStud

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Maxtro said:
ELstud how long have you been doing this cold approach thing? I saw one of your old approach threads dated May or something.

It's obvious that you don't have approach anxiety anymore. Good, great, wonderful. Move on to the next step. Start trying to close. Until then please don't make another thread that doesn't have you trying to close in it.

And just in case you were wondering. I attempted to # close a cute girl in my gym today. She told me shes been staying as a guest with some people and didn't have a number. She asked for my number instead. I'm not expecting her to call but I at least took the risk to ask her out.

No risk, no reward.
If I close I close, if I don't, I don't. FR's are FR's and I'm not just going to stop posting FR's just because I didn't number close. That's stupid. I post FR's to keep track of my approaches and to possibly get advice on how I could do better. But hah, don't post an FR until I close? That's dumb. Of course I'll close chicks, but see I don't go in sets thinking "OMG! NUMBER NUMBER, I NEED TO GET THE NUMBER", no I go in there having fun and I'm not even thinking about the number. If things escalate and she seems pretty interesting, sure I'll ask, but I don't go into sets expecting or even wanting the numbers of all the girls I approach. I'm definitely going to try and escalate things with the Jacquie chick tommorow though.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Kev07

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Calm down with the KBJ calling here, dude was just asking you a simple question.


And yeah, pretty much what maxtro said, you already know my view on your approaches elstud, you need to close something, anything, because as of right now, your "FRs", as far as what i can see, are just daily conversations.
 

Grand Wizzard Alamar

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#close signals the girl that you're interested.
a lot of guys don't have the balls to do this anyway, so you'll stand out like that.
 

dav22

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If anyone's a KBJ it's you. You're the one who types up 3-4 standard conversations from your lunch break each day.

I think you should use the time you spend writing your FR's to look around some tips and advice in the forum.
 

ElStud

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dav22 said:
If anyone's a KBJ it's you. You're the one who types up 3-4 standard conversations from your lunch break each day.

I think you should use the time you spend writing your FR's to look around some tips and advice in the forum.
I'm sorry man but you're an idiot. Do you even know what KBJ means? Keyboard Jockie, as in someone who brags but has no proof at all of even going out and doing sh1t. I've got tons of PROOF that I actually go out and do sh1t. Learn what something means before you go using it incorrectly. And where's your proof of success or even going out there in the field and trying? Nowhere to be found. Besides, it's rather dumb to accuse me of being a KBJ, when you're the one who shows KBJ traits and I show no KBJ traits. YOU have no proof of going out there and doing sh1t, yet you give people advice and act like you know what you're talking about. I actually go out there and have proof that I do sh1t and I don't try to act like I'm better than I actually am like you.

And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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HandyAndy

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ElStud said:
I'm sorry man but you're an idiot. Do you even know what KBJ means? Keyboard Jockie, as in someone who brags but has no proof at all of even going out and doing sh1t. I've got tons of PROOF that I actually go out and do sh1t. Learn what something means before you go using it incorrectly. And where's your proof of success or even going out there in the field and trying? Nowhere to be found. Besides, it's rather dumb to accuse me of being a KBJ, when you're the one who shows KBJ traits and I show no KBJ traits. YOU have no proof of going out there and doing sh1t, yet you give people advice and act like you know what you're talking about. I actually go out there and have proof that I do sh1t and I don't try to act like I'm better than I actually am like you.

And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.

Stop asking ppl where their proof of success is, you are UNSUCCESSFUL in every FR youve posted, and when i turned the question back on you in the previous page, you quickly changed the subject because you knew i was right.
 

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ElStud said:
And what's this obsession with numbers on this board? They don't mean sh1t anyway. Most girls who give numbers will flake unless you did a really good set or something. I'd much rather aim for getting the girl to want to meet me outside of school.
Good, now you are thinking outside the box. Start asking these girls if they want to get together after school. Go chill with them at the towns cool local place.

It's great that you've come this far and only at 17 but you have to keep progressing. I really don't think you will be happy with nothing but random conversations for the next few months.

Next time you do an approach remember to have fun. But try to do at least one of these.

  • Arrange a casual hang out "date"
  • Get her number
  • Kiss her
 

dav22

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I don't need to prove anything because i couldn't give a **** if you think i'm sucessful or not. The bottomline is that people are giving you advice and regardless of their sucess level, it can still be very valid - sometimes even more so as they would have encountered failures similar to yours.
 
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