Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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FR: The 2 sets I approached/interacted with today.

ElStud

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You guys know the deal, almost everyday I'm at school I approach a few sets of girls and these are how those interactions with. Both sets seemed pretty interested, especially the first.

Approach #1
I'm basically walking around the caffeteria and I sit down and open this 2-set. As with all the approaches I can't really remember a lot of the exact details, but I'll tell you what I remember.

- I open them with the high five opener and that seems to open the set up.

- At one point me and one of the girl 1 are just talking about instruments and she tells me she plays guitar. Also when I talked about learning trumpet over the weekend she said "Yeah, I tried to play my brothers trumpet and couldn't do it".

- When I tell girl1 my name, she asks me if I use to ride her bus and I said yes.

- At one point we're discussing music and the girls tell me they have a band. I basically ask about the band and I tell them that I'll check out any shows they have.

- I got their names and they both handshaked me.

- I closed the set with "Well it was cool talking to you girls" and girl1 says "It was cool talking with you too" and girl1 shakes my hand again before I leave the set.
Approach #2
I'm sitting at this table for a while at lunch and this Jacquie chick comes and sits down. Eventually I start talking to her...

- I open her starting to ask her why she's so quiet and we start off of that.

- And the rest of the set is me constantly teasing and busting on the Jacquie girl. At one point this Craig dude tries to AMOG, but ofcourse I'm unaffected and I stay in the set with the 2 girls still laughing at me. But that's really the only way to summarize the approach, me busting on the Jacquie constantly and the group laughing.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonJoseCantosie

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Stop making so many threads. Just put it all in a journal. Its hard to keep track of them. Im glad ur approaching and interacting, but whats seductive about the point of conversation ur talking about? Its purely small talk....which is not good as ur more of a friend than anything. But keep it up my friend :). U've improved in opening.
 

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Uhmm not trying to be an ass but what is the point of posting random conversations with girls that are pretty much meaningless.. usually FRs involve you getting a #... just my 2 cents
 

Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Elstud, you have really good confidence and make really good approaches, but they're too much like friendly approaches, meaning you can have fun with the girls you talk to but they don't really see you as someone they'd fvck or date.
You gotta show them that you're interested, but not like you just want them for their body... so you gotta show you're interested in them, and you gotta get the girl to open up a little to you, by being a bit more sexual, and of course #closing shows interest because the girl thinks that you want to call her to talk more or hang out.

Hey, it can't hurt to try something new... go for some #closes tomorrow!
 

ElStud

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Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
Elstud, you have really good confidence and make really good approaches, but they're too much like friendly approaches, meaning you can have fun with the girls you talk to but they don't really see you as someone they'd fvck or date.
You gotta show them that you're interested, but not like you just want them for their body... so you gotta show you're interested in them, and you gotta get the girl to open up a little to you, by being a bit more sexual, and of course #closing shows interest because the girl thinks that you want to call her to talk more or hang out.

Hey, it can't hurt to try something new... go for some #closes tomorrow!
Oh sorry about that I don't go up to every girl wanting to f*ck them. And I don't really care about number closing either, I'd rather go for a kiss or something. And I added the other set.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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robstar

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ElStud said:
Oh sorry about that I don't go up to every girl wanting to f*ck them. And I don't really care about number closing either, I'd rather go for a kiss or something. And I added the other set.
If you'd rather go for the kiss what's stopping you?
 

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ElStud, if they seemed interested, then you gotta step it up. next time a set seems interested, ask if the girl has a boyfriend. if she asks why, say "because I want to know if I'm gonna get beat up for hitting on you." Funny, and expresses your interest. But this convo had no escalation whatsoever.

have you been approaching long? it looks like you have been consciously doing it for a couple years. any girlfriends yet? or kisses? or have conversations been like this the whole time?
 

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robstar said:
If you'd rather go for the kiss what's stopping you?
You really want to fvcking know? I haven't had the chance to kiss close any of the girls I'd actually want to kiss. And there are really only a few particular chicks that I want to k-close.
 

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ElStud said:
You really want to fvcking know? I haven't had the chance to kiss close any of the girls I'd actually want to kiss. And there are really only a few particular chicks that I want to k-close.
I smell bull****.

And make A THREAD for these, i'm sick of seeing a new one every day. They're totally pointless, you clearly have no interest in improving.
 
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