"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: Subway

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While returning from work I noticed a cute HB7.5 with an asian friend at the subway station. I didn't approach her because for some reason I felt panick and shock. The train came and I sat in a double seat near the window. Guess what, the hottie sat next to me! And her asian friend right in front of me. She began looking at things in my direction as if looking out of the window on my side. I faced her, established EC and said HI. We had a small chitchat, like what's your name, what college do you go to... etc. I talked equally to the hottie and her Asian girlfriend. JUST as I was nearing the phone close, the asian chick said "We got to get off at this stop". The hottie and Asian chick said bye to me and left the train before I could say anything. D'OH! Please give me your insights of how you would've handled this. During that time I haven't used C&F at all as I was barely coming up with things to say to them without being boring.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Life-Trainee
While returning from work I noticed a cute HB7.5 with an asian friend at the subway station. I didn't approach her because for some reason I felt panick and shock. The train came and I sat in a double seat near the window. Guess what, the hottie sat next to me! And her asian friend right in front of me. She began looking at things in my direction as if looking out of the window on my side. I faced her, established EC and said HI. We had a small chitchat, like what's your name, what college do you go to... etc. I talked equally to the hottie and her Asian girlfriend. JUST as I was nearing the phone close, the asian chick said "We got to get off at this stop". The hottie and Asian chick said bye to me and left the train before I could say anything. D'OH! Please give me your insights of how you would've handled this. During that time I haven't used C&F at all as I was barely coming up with things to say to them without being boring.

Hm thats a tough one, especially if they were dashing off. YOu could of tried hey, let me get your number really quick. but other than that just tough luck id say.
 

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I've never been in this situation but hers my arm chair theory on how to play this:

1]Attack her as soon as she sits next to you.

2]Ask her where is she heading. This allows you to know how much time you have to spit game.

3]Sparringly Involve the friend in the conversation.

4]Ask if she has a bf in the manner that your style of PU calls for.

5]Go for the digit 1-2 stops before hers.


That is my guess as to how to play this one.
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY

4]Ask if she has a bf in the manner that your style of PU calls for.
if she doesn't tell u about a boyfriend, assume she hasn't got one.
she'll let u know if she does.
 

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The problem with subway rides is that unless you are both on it for a while (at least 5-6 stops), you can't really build rapport. Tough break.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by dementia
Was that an empty train? Maybe one of em liked you and forced the other to sit near you. Otherwise why would they choose that seat out of them all.

Id go that route the same week, if their IL is high enough you might catch em again, in which case you have to sarge em good and hard.

Yea, i wouldve just yelled "hey let me get your number before you walk out of my life forever!" lol
I'm certain the hottie liked me and sat next to me intentionally. Or maybe by the end of convo the hottie gave her friend a cue to pull out the troops...
 
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