"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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FR: Number close at the club

Recluce

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So im out alone after my friends left the club to go home. I head to the dance floor to find a girl to dance. Find one, ask her name and stick my hand out to lead her to a different spot on the dance floor but still near her friends. She dances with me for about 15 seconds then moves over to one of her girlfriends and leaves me. This isn't the first time this has happened to me so I finally get to the point where I get tired of it happening.

I go up to one of this girls friends on the dance floor and basically engage in a conversation about what a guy had to do to just meet a girl on the dance floor and just have a dance or two and enjoy himself. Well without asking this girl instantly just starts dancing on me and my head just explodes with enlightenment. I dance with her for a couple of songs then twirl her at the end of a song and head off to try my new found tactic.

While Im looking for a new girl to try this technique on, I chat up this guy thats sitting on the side of the dancefloor that looks like he would be at least ok with women. We talk for a minute and I ask the guy what the hell it takes to be able to get girls to dance with you. His answer,"confidence". Well no ****. So I ask him what he would do if he wanted to project confidence to a girl and pointed at one. He just said he would walk right up and be a man about it. So I did. I walked right up to her and did the same maneuver again. I asked her if I could get her to answer a quick question for me, she agreed then I got her name. Told her that I tried to get a girl to dance with me by asking her name then sticking my hand out to pull her to the dance floor but she just strolled off to her friends. Once again she just started dancing with me!

We danced for a song or two then I ask who she's here with and find out its her friends birthday and she pulls the birthday girl over to dance with me as well. Im thinking to myself,"holy ****!!" I dance with them for a song and then make my exit a few feet over to relax at the bar. Some AFC gets the first girl to dance with him for about 30 seconds then she gets away to come stand next to me. Talking to her about why she just walked away from him, the guy is trying to use her to make the birthday girl jealous and she had to get away. He comes over to try to drag her back out on the dance floor but I rescue her from him and she mine for the rest of the night.

I ask whats wrong with him and she says he's too short (he's the same height as me). Then I tell her that I'll help find a guy for her thats her type. I start pointing out guys that I think is her type and she spits out why they aren't her type, all the while dancing with me.

Lights come on and I tell her to give me her phone and dial my number. She grabs the phone and saves my number to my name and we head downstairs to leave. I ended up running into some old friends that I havent seen in about 4 years and we talk for half an hour or so and I completely ignored her after we got downstairs and she left with her friend. No big loss to me because I got her number, but I had a great time and realized that sometimes you just need to forget trying to use the pickup lines and just trust in your instincts and say whats on your mind. The words that were coming from my mouth with this girl were my own and because of that I wasn't stumbling through my memory trying to remember a line that I can use next. I wasn't worried about picking up the girl, I was more preoccupied with just being able to interact with a girl on the dancefloor and find someone that I can have some fun with for a few songs with no expectations of anything further.

What a great learning experience. I think spring break will be a fun week for me!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jitterbug

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Good that you're having a great time.

....Lights come on and I tell her to give me her phone and dial my number. She grabs the phone and saves my number to my name and we head downstairs to leave. I ended up running into some old friends that I havent seen in about 4 years and we talk for half an hour or so and I completely ignored her after we got downstairs and she left with her friend. No big loss to me because I got her number...
If your goal is to get a number, congrats, job done! However, if you're looking for more, you failed right there. If you try to contact her afterwards, you'll find out that she's gonna be very flaky, or just flat out ignore you. You haven't built any rapport with her yet, and she probably won't remember some random guy who talked & danced with her for a short while at a club.

There are a few indicators you can rely on to know whether a girl is gonna be a flake or not (i.e if her interest level in you is high enough) when you number-close her at a club. One of them is when she leaves. A girl with high IL will seek you out to say goodbye before she leaves. It's what people do in general if they genuinely enjoy the other person's company, and if they have decent manners. If you're the prize and she really wants you to call, she will make sure she swings by before she leaves the venue so that you'll remember her.

You can swap the genders around and think about it. If you're really interested in a girl, would you just leave the venue without at least saying goodbye?

Eventually you'll find out that getting numbers is dead easy. Getting numbers while guaranteeing that the girls have high IL and won't likely flake on you when you call to set up a date - that is the real game and a lot more difficult.
 

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I'm just about ready to give up getting numbers at a club. I went to a few bars last night, and the first girl I approached seemed kinda interested, so i gave her a flyer to a party in a few weeks. She seemed really excited about going to the party, and said she'd go. so we'll see what happens.

The next girl had dike friend (my friend points out), and also another cute girl with her. But i go up anyway, and the one girl i singled was looking at me like she wanted something to happen that night, and not at all interested in the party, lol.

The last girl was pretty drunk and the odds were screwed, so all kinds of guys hit on her. But again, I just wanted to give her a flyer, so I go up and talk to her a bit, and she's all over me with hugs and wanted something to happen that night... lol. I donno if she's gonna come or not.

Anyway, I'm tired of getting numbers at clubs/bars and then have them flake or not even respond. If they're interested, maybe one will show. It's probably best to just escalating things at a club or bar.
 

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Hey Jitterbug, I bought a drink for this girl at a club once, and then we danced near her friends. After a couple of songs her friends start talking to her, so I left and said i'll see her later. So I go and talk to another girl (#2) who's sitting down and eventually went to the dance floor with. Anyway after girl (#2) left with her friends, the other girl (#1) tells me she wants to buy me a drink. Aside from the drama with her friends, some dude hit on her the moment i turned my back. AND there was another guy around the corner that she also bought a drink for. I didn't battle for her or anything, but she wanted me to stay, so i did. The other guys eventually just walked away. OK BACK TO THE MAIN POINT. She let me know she was leaving with her friends. I should have escalated the situation, but asked for her number, got nowhere and ended up giving her my number and a flyer to the next party.

Was she just looking for attention or was she interested?
 
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