"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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FR: Mixed Set - 4 external interrupts

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On the campus field, next to the running tracks, I had stopped to drink water... and saw a cute HB 8 girl standing and stretching.. oh man.. I hadn't shaven.. BUT I had to appraoch her.. so I open her (over shoulder):

Me: Do yo know what time the bookstore closes?
Her: prolly around 9 *smiles*
Me: You are not from USC are you?
Her: I am.. I am a freshman.
Me: Freshman! nice.. whats your major?
HEr: Civil
ME: Nice.. thats awesome.. respect (kino punch)
<<I vibe with her on civil and college stuff>>

<<EXTERNAL INTERRUPT #1>>
A girl, HB 5, wearing "I love NY" t shirt..
ME: (after name exchange) Where are you from?
EI-1: blah blah (not NY) - looks down at her shirt
ME: but everybody loves NY right? haha
EI-1: *laughs* - is dealt with

<<EXTERNAL INTERRUPT #2>>
A guy, good looking, prolly after this girl, I befriend him, vibe with him, he sits with me.. but keeps engaging the target.. saying sh1t like - "you were running like a cheetah.. i couldn't catch up" - douche bag azzzhole.:cuss:

<<EXTERNAL INTERRUPT #3>>
Another guy, asian, I befriend him too, he shows tons of IOIs (asking me interview style questions) lol.. he's dealt with..

<<EXTERNAL INTERRUPT #4>>
Another guy, a nerdy white guy, I befriend him, he was not much of a smart azz.

But now, these ppl started talking about their own lame freshman stuff.. and we "guys" mutually exchanged goodbyes and I take off...

Lessons:

I should have used an engaging opener to bring everyone into a common discussion (started by ME not anybody else)

I should have negged the target when these guys started coming in


Good news:

My game is getting better now. I don't feel like a robot anymore. I feel more at ease controlling my sets. I think I can really get good pretty quickly.

I got her name though, so my sneaky azz has found my target on facebook. lol She seemed interested, but I don't expect much from this.


Limiting factors (my excuses):

I don't have an interesting lifestyle (like a planned pool party, or social event, or something fun like that). If I did, I would have invited the whole group to that event, and then number closed, and obviously gamed the target in MY SOCIAL environment... not theirs.
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ugh, i hate when that happens. i used to get that nonstop at work whenver i was talking to a chick.

It's like other guys see you talking with a girl, they see it as their opportunity to get in on a conversation with OMG! a GIRL!

It got so bad i'd be talking to a chick, and then all of a sudden i'd hear a voice behind me go "Yeah that's so true." or start laughing if we cracked a joke.

At one point i even started using it as an opener.

"Hey you, I bet you 20$ that within 5 minutes of us talking, another dude is gonna sidle up on me and join in. If not sooner"

worked surprisingly well in that environment.

Sometimes i'd neghit the GUY if i already knew the chick. I'd turn around, look all shocked, then say somethign like "dude! so the vagisil worked? great to see you!"

I'm such a *****.
 

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How about this, next time this happens tell your target "There's something I've noticed about you... oh damn I have to get going. Let me have your number and I'll catch up with you later"
Or some variation of that.
 

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r0cky said:
How about this, next time this happens tell your target "There's something I've noticed about you... oh damn I have to get going. Let me have your number and I'll catch up with you later"
Or some variation of that.
So you mean take the number in front of the guys?
 

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Aragon034 said:
It's like other guys see you talking with a girl, they see it as their opportunity to get in on a conversation with OMG! a GIRL!
:crackup:

but the funny thing is, if you lock yourself in, or look like the girl knows you, these insects won't have the balls to swarm around.. only because they knew I was just in.. they came meddling in..

In my case, these guys were already a group, and it was night time, so maybe they wanted to make sure she was safe.

The point is, I had started kino, I was hugging her.. and she was enjoying it.. maybe that added to their brotherly fear. lol
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you really wanted to pursue, you should have asked the girl if she wanted to go somewhere else without making it seem too upfront, like "Its hot outside, wanna head for some shade?" or something not quite so bad.

And i'm new to these forums, so forgive me, but what do HB and AFC mean? HB = hot blonde? hot brunette? Lol, no clue.
 

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saturos said:
If you really wanted to pursue, you should have asked the girl if she wanted to go somewhere else without making it seem too upfront, like "Its hot outside, wanna head for some shade?" or something not quite so bad.

And i'm new to these forums, so forgive me, but what do HB and AFC mean? HB = hot blonde? hot brunette? Lol, no clue.
lol get outta here! no just kidding.. HB = Hot babe, AFC = Average Frustrated Chump.

Btw, it was night time, so no shade. AND, there was no where else to drag her.. everything was closed.. it was a small stadium field! lol
 

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So you mean take the number in front of the guys?
Yeah why not? Dont tell me you care.

Btw, it was night time, so no shade. AND, there was no where else to drag her.. everything was closed.. it was a small stadium field! lol
Night time?
I'm always hesitant to approach chicks outside at night because I might come off as a creep. The only 2 times i tried to do it the girls were not receptive at all so that's given me a bad feeling about it.
 

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Yeah why not? Dont tell me you care.

Yeah, maybe until I get something planned for a group pickup (inviting the entire group), OR have opportunity to isolate her (A wing or 2 might help), I should just use this kind of curiosity builder line, and close, and leave. good idea.

Some wing(s) would make things easier.
 
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Night time?
I'm always hesitant to approach chicks outside at night because I might come off as a creep. The only 2 times i tried to do it the girls were not receptive at all so that's given me a bad feeling about it.
I have seen videos of direct approaches at night, on single sets of girls, opening them from behind.. and still ending up in number closes.

If your intention and focus is to simply spark up the interaction, she will not get that creep vibe from you. Its all about sub-communications, and how you come off to other people.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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