"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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caliman

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Im sarging solo. I go to first bar. socialize some with a few guys. no girls near me near the bar so i can't open and i can't walk across the room to open cause thats too needy. after a 40 min. i leave to next bar

the second bar is dead so i leave after 10 min.

I go to third bar which is my favorite bar. i social proof myself there. Some guys who i met previous nites open me and we talked. i open about 13-15 guys throughout the nite (half were really cool social guys). I had some great conversations. I had massive social proof BUT I Could not open girls. i made a lot of (postive) comments to girls to get them to talk, but it just did not work. i even got ignored a couple of times. wtf? comments i made "were great song huh, this song is cool" as im moving my head smiling at her giving brief eyecontact (i did not stare) i get no response so i back turn talk to guy next to me. This happened a few times. When they (girls) did respond they were brief in their talking (they did not show enough interest, did not really smile). I even made situationl comments, but did not work. I am a little above average in looks, there were definately some better looking guys than me. These guys did some bad needy appraoching (but they were getting sometimes in conversations with girls) most did not have great game but they were social and good looking. they did get dances some. one or two of these guys got make out.

I had pretty good alpha BL. i was pretty non needy. I was in pretty good state. i talked to a lot of guys, played pool with one guy, then played a game by myself, had one guy asked me to join him to go to another bar, which when we started walking (to the other bar); we saw his friends walking back from the other bar, so we went back to the bar we were already at.

This Guy steve (BAR REGULAR), he does not talk a lot but he pulls girls by going on the dance floor dancing by himself (THE GIRLS will aproach him and dance sometimes) and does not really talk to them that much. He also is able to leave bar with the girls. I can't really use routines because i have used pretty much all of them at these bars i go to.

WTF AM I DOING WRONG. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I WOULD REALLY APREECIATE SOME FEEDBACK. CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING WRONG. u might want to check out my last couple of posts to learn more about what im doing.


I COULD REALLY USE SOME PUA FEEDBACK.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PigAdlemPimp

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I don't worry about having social proof with any other guys, I am only into cold approaching the hottest babes, I am my own Authority, what any of the cooler or nerdier dudes think about me is pointless, I only socialize with the hot babes whom I am targeting, it is the way to success. :yes:
 

Raikojo17

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dude, walkin up to girls and talkin to them is not needy, it's aggresive and confident. girls sense a lack of confidence when u dont walk up to them and u look interested. u had some social proof, so use wat u have and jus walk up to them, make sure u have their attention and talk.
 
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