"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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FR: I won, she lost, game over.

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Suspens said:
However the way you treated her during the BJ proves that you are a damaged little fag who is on a rampage of revenge and justice. Not sure what has happened to you in the past, son.
The question is why does his dominance and BJ bother you? Seems like a lot of you men are on a jealous rampage of your own. Perhaps, next time he should post a thread complaining about the market of women and asking how many days he should wait before he calls for a second date. Then you'll be in sync, right?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The girl sounds like a low class skank piece of trash who had it coming.
What mind boggles me is the OP had no interest in this chick, yet took the time to meet up with her and spend time with her just to "punish" her? Why bother? If I determine that a girl is not worth my time, then she's not worth my time. No way would I be meeting up with her to try to get some sort of petty "revenge" on her.

I do believe that dominance is a good thing, and especially in the bedroom. But food for thought: Guys might want to be careful with the idea of "forcing BJs" because they might find themselves accused of sexual assault charge.

Is "getting revenge" the direction this forum is going to start going in now? If so, sounds like pretty weak sauce to me. I don't think acting like a d!ck qualifies as self improvement.
 

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its not about the revenge its about attaining the mentality, which is absolutely self improvement.
 

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its not about the revenge its about attaining the mentality, which is absolutely self improvement.
I quote the OP:
"I won, she lost, game over. Just wanted to punish her for fvcking with me in the initial date setup. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Time to go ghost."
Sounds like revenge was the motivation to me.
 

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zekko said:
I quote the OP:
"I won, she lost, game over. Just wanted to punish her for fvcking with me in the initial date setup. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Time to go ghost."
Sounds like revenge was the motivation to me.
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Yeah, it's kind of tough to walk back something typed out so clearly just above.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Zekko, absent his motivation for revenge, how do you feel about the rest of his conduct? If the rest of his conduct is displeasing to you, what exactly about it doesn't resonate?
 

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Back we go to the age old what a woman says she wants and what a woman actually wants thing

OP kept his frame , dominated her and went kamikaze confident with the “i wanna fvck you” ( dam i still think theres a smoother way of saying that)

As far as im concerned i don’t think this chick had any other choice than to give him a BJ

The bottom line is women are bored

Their bored of guys telling them how pretty they are , their bored of guys bending over backwards trying to get between their legs , their bored of men being so pathetic

So when a guy like OP rocks up and starts doing stuff a little different the panties start dampening themselves and the final result is inevtibable

Shes going to do exactly as shes told because OP is exciting , OP doesn’t give a fvck and OP knows what he wants

simple

P.S

OP why didn’t you drill this chick ?
 

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There is a point to both sides of this argument.

I have now firmly come to the awakening that women are ultimately dishonest creatures. The vast majority anyway. The fact of the matter is, they do not realise it. That's not to say I dislike them by any means, quite the contrary. I just have to be honest with what I and many of you seem to experience. They basically just say/do something one minute and then have completely forgotten about it half an hour-a few weeks later.

Take this chick I've been seeing as a perfect example. I saw her for a couple of weekends in a row recently. She told me about how guys treated her like sh!t and how she had low self esteem. Fine. She seemed pretty normal all the same.

Roll on two weeks later; she's brought up how I must be getting bored with her by now bahblahblah, like 5-6 times over the course of the weekend. I ignored. She then proceeded to continue with this course in texting during the following week. Now, I have had my share of needy women,believe me. More than most probably. But you know where it's got me? Exactly nowhere.

So apparently this chick was 'only joking'. I tell her, it's not a joke when it's 5-6times, after I take you out for a half-ton meal and introduce you to a couple of close friends (and what she's told me about her insecurities). She continues with the facade of 'It was only a joke'. I still don't buy it. To this day. I'm moving on. She chooses to re-frame her bs because she realises she's losing the manipulation game pretty badly; I don't buy it. This happens to me regularly with women of interest and women of non-interest. ALL THE TIME.

Basically I'm cutting her of before she does get heart-broken again. Cutting my losses. Just like BITG and Guru do, only in a slightly watered-down format. I guess my lifestyle is serial monogamy, opposed to pure pump'n'dump.

But as soon as a chick shows the first sign of manipulation, I back right off. And they have to work pretty fckn hard to back-pedal to be perfectly honest.

Guru and BITG simply demonstrate different effects to the same cause. Purely about avoiding drama these days.
 

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zekko said:
I quote the OP:
"I won, she lost, game over. Just wanted to punish her for fvcking with me in the initial date setup. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Time to go ghost."
Sounds like revenge was the motivation to me.
Like I said, kinda pitiful and sad.
Just curious, what would you guys have said if you asked out a girl you were attracted to, and her response was:

"busy with work and then going on vacation."
 

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And this is supposed to be admirable behavior?

Gimme a fvcking break.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Trump said:
Just curious, what would you guys have said if you asked out a girl you were attracted to, and her response was:

"busy with work and then going on vacation."
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Maybe the same thing OP did. Maybe not.

It has little to do with anything he said.

Acting like a 9 year old on a revenge mission? And for what?
 

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And this is supposed to be admirable behavior?

Gimme a fvcking break.
More than you pedastalizing the girl in the thread you started for Damn sure...

Up to 19 straight texts from her with no response. Disagree with my method all you want but the end result speaks for itself. I could text her in a month after not talking to her at all and I guarentee you she would be DTF.

In fact...that's going to be my next move for proof of concept purposes. Does this method get a woman to have the switch turned on so firmly that you can ignore her for a month and then come back and still have a green light? We will find out next month.
 

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Acting like a 9 year old on a revenge mission? And for what?
Oh, that's right! Because you lived your life so perfectly, it gives you the right to shame another man for your perceived, socially-contrived "adolescence." Gotcha.
 

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Oh, that's right! Because you lived your life so perfectly, it gives you the right to shame another man for your perceived, socially-contrived "adolescence." Gotcha.
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You're not very good at this faux outrage thing.

Give up.
 

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More than you pedastalizing the girl in the thread you started for Damn sure...
Yeah except right now I have an HB10 who loves me and you have....what again?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Further proof of what most western women are just about good for. A *** bucket and nothing more.
 

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I'm all for being aggressive when it matters but something just seems off about this story.

What would you rate this chick looks wise?
 

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I mean, I agree the OP has some issues and maybe he's a bit out of line, but he didn't do anything that wrong and overall... I gotta give him kudos :up:

It's like if you're watching a sport game, and all game the refs are calling BS fouls against your team. The calls are clearly biased and unfair. Then a guy on your team trips another player gets away with it and scores. He cheated. You know it, everyone watching knows it. Yeah maybe it was "wrong," but hell if the other team didn't have it coming. With that said, f*ck it. She had it cuming. Job well done.
 

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What a load of ****. Why the heck are you guys putting this guy down for being a man? A man does what he wants, when he wants and isn't afraid of the precautions for getting what he wants. He simply deals with the problems that occur on the way, and because he moves steadfast in his path to obtain what he desires, he often does not encounter resistance at all.

From what some of you have wrote, it seems you are missing the point of his actions. It's to test out an idea in the field, to prove to HIMSELF that he could do it, and to break the social barriers holding all of us back.

No matter, old people tend to be self righteous anyway and are too lazy and narrow minded to see from another perspective or to even TRY to explain their reasoning for anything (probably because they don't have any to begin with). :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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Yewki said:
I mean, I agree the OP has some issues and maybe he's a bit out of line, but he didn't do anything that wrong and overall... I gotta give him kudos :up:

It's like if you're watching a sport game, and all game the refs are calling BS fouls against your team. The calls are clearly biased and unfair. Then a guy on your team trips another player gets away with it and scores. He cheated. You know it, everyone watching knows it. Yeah maybe it was "wrong," but hell if the other team didn't have it coming. With that said, f*ck it. She had it cuming. Job well done.

this is pretty much what was running through my head
your posts always show a very straight up and solid thought process
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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