"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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I approached a group of women at a small bar and HB8 said I was cute. I responded with I have a boyfriend. We had a couple of drinks and I managed to isolate her. She said I want to fυck you while playfully slapping my cheek. I told her we'll see and excused myself.

I had some heavy kino with an HB7 before she left and got her number. I walked her out to her car and went in for the kiss. I came back to the HB8 again and her interest dropped cold. I brought up my firearms again and told her she should check it out. She responded not tonight. Attention wh
οre.[FONT=&quot] I should have left with the HB7.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Those who talk about it don't follow through :nono:
HB8 may have seen you leave with 7 and saw herself as a 2nd choice?


HB7 couldve been a sure thing, but you wanted the looks upgrade.

I would probably have gone back for the hotter chick too, so no preaching from me!:D
Lesson learned - 1 point more in looks with unsure shouldnt trump a sure thing/more likely thing:up:
 
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It's sickening that good looking women can easily choose their schedule of mating.
 

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and just why is it sickening? cause you don't rate? CHANGE it, Get a black belt, lose weight, gain muscle, make a ton of money, learn to play guitar or sing better. hell, go have face surgery done if need be.
 

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Not sure why you're convinced she was an AW, man.

I mean, she could be.

But to me it sounds like you didn't strike when the iron was hot. She directly said she wanted to sleep with you and you left. She felt rejected, some degree of buyer's remorse for putting herself out there and when you came back, her buying temp was WAY down.

Same thing's happened to me.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

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yeah man you blew her off after she said she wanted to fck you, you should have just asked if she wanted to leave the bar with you right then
 

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BeginningDJ said:
It's sickening that good looking women can easily choose their schedule of mating.

it is man. it sickens me to the core.

though sometimes i feel like it's me who is wrong and not them.

i can't change them but i can change me. i guess thats the only control i have
 

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If she had any self respect she was right to blow you off. She tells you she wants to fvck you and your response is to go flirt with another chick? I don't care what PUA BS they tell you to do on here, it's hard to feel sorry for you when you do that.
 
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If she wanted to fυck the living shіt out of me, she would have left with me, regardless of how the night played out. I'm likely not the first guy she said that to; she threw out the beta-bait to see if I would bite. How many men would fall head over heels with the golden opportunity to fυck an HB8?

I reacted with a test of my own to see if she was actually DTF. HB8 knew what my intentions were when I approached her later that night. When I responded indifferent to her I want to fυck you remark, she didn't received the ego boost through validation. Her rejection would have been the same if I had 'struck when the iron was hot.'
 

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BeginningDJ said:
If she wanted to fυck the living shіt out of me, she would have left with me, regardless of how the night played out. I'm likely not the first guy she said that to; she threw out the beta-bait to see if I would bite. How many men would fall head over heels with the golden opportunity to fυck an HB8?

I reacted with a test of my own to see if she was actually DTF. HB8 knew what my intentions were when I approached her later that night. When I responded indifferent to her I want to fυck you remark, she didn't received the ego boost through validation. Her rejection would have been the same if I had 'struck when the iron was hot.'
she was up front and laid it on the line for you, it was blatant?? there was no need for a test, you might/probably would have, come up against some LMR but I think you handled this badly
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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BeginningDJ said:
If she wanted to fυck the living shіt out of me, she would have left with me, regardless of how the night played out. I'm likely not the first guy she said that to; she threw out the beta-bait to see if I would bite. How many men would fall head over heels with the golden opportunity to fυck an HB8?

I reacted with a test of my own to see if she was actually DTF. HB8 knew what my intentions were when I approached her later that night. When I responded indifferent to her I want to fυck you remark, she didn't received the ego boost through validation. Her rejection would have been the same if I had 'struck when the iron was hot.'

you should have just asked her right then if she wanted to leave, you would have found out right then if she was serious or not and you could have moved on
 

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zekko said:
If she had any self respect she was right to blow you off. She tells you she wants to fvck you and your response is to go flirt with another chick? I don't care what PUA BS they tell you to do on here, it's hard to feel sorry for you when you do that.
I agree with zekko in your reasoning: it was not the best way to handle it. However, I do see how OP didn't want to be like the rest of men and just droop over an invitation for sex. Just remember, PUA rules are garbage sometimes and do not apply 100% of the time. Do what your gut tells you, OP. This time, it cost you some nice-raking poon--learn from it.


BeginningDJ said:
If she wanted to fυck the living shіt out of me, she would have left with me, regardless of how the night played out. I'm likely not the first guy she said that to; she threw out the beta-bait to see if I would bite. How many men would fall head over heels with the golden opportunity to fυck an HB8?

I reacted with a test of my own to see if she was actually DTF. HB8 knew what my intentions were when I approached her later that night. When I responded indifferent to her I want to fυck you remark, she didn't received the ego boost through validation. Her rejection would have been the same if I had 'struck when the iron was hot.'

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she was up front and laid it on the line for you, it was blatant?? there was no need for a test, you might/probably would have, come up against some LMR but I think you handled this badly
@ betheman & beginningDJ: This is the hindsight bias, the belief that events that already happened were more predictable (now that they happened and you know the outcome) than at the time they were actually happening. Ultimately, these responses above are just speculation. Reality is no one truly knows what would have happened. If you had gone for it though, at least you would have known if she was DTF or just being an AW. The biggest failure in approaching is failing to approach--the rest are successes because you took action.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
I approached a group of women at a small bar and HB8 said I was cute. I responded with I have a boyfriend. We had a couple of drinks and I managed to isolate her. She said I want to fυck you while playfully slapping my cheek. I told her we'll see and excused myself.

I had some heavy kino with an HB7 before she left and got her number. I walked her out to her car and went in for the kiss. I came back to the HB8 again and her interest dropped cold. I brought up my firearms again and told her she should check it out. She responded not tonight. Attention wh
οre.[FONT=&quot] I should have left with the HB7.

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Classic sh*t test. She baited you with the sex talk, got the attention of your interest ("we'll see" counts as interest to a girl) and went on to the next dude. A good response would've been to downplay it and start talking about something else ("I want to f*ck you." "Respect. So how about them Lakers?")

Rule of Thumb: If she ever talks overly sexual out of the blue, it's a test. 100% of the time.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
If she wanted to fυck the living shіt out of me, she would have left with me, regardless of how the night played out. I'm likely not the first guy she said that to; she threw out the beta-bait to see if I would bite. How many men would fall head over heels with the golden opportunity to fυck an HB8?

Exactly. That's what half the guys on this blog don't understand - if a girl REALLY wants to f*ck you, she WILL find a way to f*ck you. No matter how many girls you flirt with, no matter how busy she is, no matter how far away she is. I've known girls who've slept in a guys closet for a weekend just so they can bang him. And you definitely weren't the first guy she threw that at, she probably does it every time she's out. And she gets off on it every single time. Thanks, third-wave feminism!
 

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I agree with zekko in your reasoning: it was not the best way to handle it. However, I do see how OP didn't want to be like the rest of men and just droop over an invitation for sex. Just remember, PUA rules are garbage sometimes and do not apply 100% of the time. Do what your gut tells you, OP. This time, it cost you some nice-raking poon--learn from it.

@ betheman & beginningDJ: This is the hindsight bias, the belief that events that already happened were more predictable (now that they happened and you know the outcome) than at the time they were actually happening. Ultimately, these responses above are just speculation. Reality is no one truly knows what would have happened. If you had gone for it though, at least you would have known if she was DTF or just being an AW. The biggest failure in approaching is failing to approach--the rest are successes because you took action.
and neither do you
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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casaanova said:
if a girl REALLY wants to f*ck you, she WILL find a way to f*ck you. !
That's true if her interest level is high enough. But I don't think that necessarily applies in this situation. This is just a case of a girl deciding who to go home with that night, they didn't really know each other, she wasn't that invested in him. He disrespected her, made her feel like a second choice, and it was off.
 

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Your were at a fork in the road. It's possible she was giving you a sh*t test to see what kind of man you are. True beta would believe her and act like a puppy. True alpha would pass her test without making her feel as though she's your second choice. Remember, she's an HB 8 so she has options, and if you make her feel bad she is going to change her tune. You didn't go beta but you told basically told her you'd bang her second to some other girl.

Instead, you should have done something like this:

Her: "I want to **** you."
You: "Yeah? Prove it (then go in for the kiss)."

Her: "I want to **** you."
You: "Oh, I don't know if you have the endurance for a guy like me (then go in for the kiss)."

Her: "I want to **** you."
You: "What makes you think I'd let you cut in line (then go in for the kiss)?"

You need to qualify her without leaving and talking to another girl and you throw the test back into her face by going for the kiss. If she was BSing you she'll think you've got b@lls so she will think highly of you and if she wasn't BSing you'll be banging her that night.
 

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"This forum is a fυcking fork in the road, man."

My point is you went the wrong way.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
I approached a group of women at a small bar and HB8 said I was cute. I responded with I have a boyfriend. We had a couple of drinks and I managed to isolate her. She said I want to fυck you while playfully slapping my cheek. I told her we'll see and excused myself.

I had some heavy kino with an HB7 before she left and got her number. I walked her out to her car and went in for the kiss. I came back to the HB8 again and her interest dropped cold. I brought up my firearms again and told her she should check it out. She responded not tonight. Attention wh
οre.[FONT=&quot] I should have left with the HB7.

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You tried to play too hard to get......should have just grabbed her ass and lightly spanked it and said oh, you are naughty, let's get out of here so i can give you a good spanking.....or you could have just said..let's go.....or should have said prove it and kissed her...many many easy things to dothis girl really wanted to f%ck you...believe that...they won't say something like that if they don't mean it.

I have made the same kind of mistake before...in fact many times before.....it's easy to make when you get burned by hot chicks who act like they want you so badly at the club or bar...and then quickly get turned off when you reciprocate only to quickly go find another guy who is more aloof to their behavior...but in this situation...she was DTF.

I know with all the games they play it can drive you crazy sometimes...too bad you can't just club them over the head and drag them back with you.
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

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