"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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FR: how i overplayed her

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Guys I had a good weekend....number closed 6 chicks, and the part i need analyzed is how I overworked my Fvck close last night on a HB 9 thirty five year old. Here goes........I got pretty drunk at a pool league banquet. We planned on going to the mining company which is a good hangout for hb's. But my cousin called me and told me there was a hot new waitress at the bar in the town I live. So I made a quick pit stop there and there were probably 8 hot chicks in there so my buddy and I decided to hang out there for awhile. I was working the waitress and noticed a guy and 2 chicks sitting at the table next to the dance floor. I made my way over there and started talking to them, introduced myself and found that the couple was married. They were all mid 30's. I got some good vibes off the single one so I talked for 30 seconds and left. Okay long story short(er) I wanted to fvck this chick. I didnt care if I got her number or not, I would never talk to her again. She leans over and whispers in my ear,"your hot and you know your fvcking hot, I wish I could tell you what kind of bad things I want to do to you in bed." Instantly I am like I got this in the bag. I respond with I am not ****y I am confident, then she tells me," you are confident arent you." Yep,.so I get up and leave. When I am gone I am conversating with all the chicks in there, and tell my buddies I got this chick in the bag.
Okay now I go back to close the deal, and she tells me she is not looking for a one night stand she wants more out of sex. and this is where I fvcked up. I tell her I am not into one night stands either, I was playing this chick like a fiddle. This is where I think I should have said all I want is a one night stand, to let this older chick know that I want sex with no strings attached. Oooh well I am sure I will see her again, and when I do, I am gonna act like I dont have a clue who she is. Just add insult to her injury. I will say this chick was on top of her game also. Before she told me what she wanted to do to me in bed, I had to ask her, "As far as I can tell you either really hate me or you really want me, one of the 2 and I cant figure it out." she responded with she really liked me.
I am looking for responses as to whether I should've told her all I want is a one night stand? I really dont care about this chick one way or another though, just looking for future ideas.
p.s. this convo with her was alot longer, but I didnt want to write it all out.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Can't everyone just TALK and get along???!!! ;)
 
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?!?!?!

Should I be assuming you didn't close her?

Seems like she wanted a FBuddy relationship. She's probably been reading sites on the web, or talking with friends, and she read the first rule of sexual intereaction "always express your interest".

When she told you she wanted more than sex, instead of only a ONS... what went through your head? You got scared because you didn't think you could totally blow her off after the first time you had sex?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You assume correctly when you assume that I didnt close on this one. But no she didnt want a Fbuddy relationship, she wanted a man that she can cook and clean for. The first thought through my head when she said she wanted more then sex was, "Nope, huh uh, nope, no way chick." After that I didnt even want it anymore. And I could leave it after once if it wasnt any good. But something told me this chick was gonna be a freak in the sack.
 
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You should have boned her that night, let her clean for you, used her as a pivot and a wingwoman... Wouldn't have hurt you in any way.

You do remember how to make a girl stop liking you right?

To your question "Should I have told her all I want is a one night stand"

No, you as a man also have the power of saying no to a relationship. You have the power to choose how far, and how exclusive a relationship is before and after anything happens between the two of you. Thinking anything less is supplication.
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
You misused that semicolon.
 
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Mr_knowit_all said:
Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
Rap music is just as stupid as latin and french. If you want to tell me why poetry and music in general are stupid as well go ahead. It's all relative dude.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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mrRuckus said:
You misused that semicolon.

You could make a case for that, but I still think it fits. A colon might have been more appropriate, but at least I didn't make up a word.
 

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Mr know it all, all I have to say is, If you are running through this forum picking apart peoples' english, you are definetly not putting in enough work in the field. I believe I will now refer to you as a keyboard jockey. And you can pick that apart!
 

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MotoXXX said:
Mr know it all, all I have to say is, If you are running through this forum picking apart peoples' english, you are definetly not putting in enough work in the field. I believe I will now refer to you as a keyboard jockey. And you can pick that apart!

Guys guys guys! Are we here to pick grammer? No....so who gives a sh!t?

Anyways back on topic...

You kinda jumped about in your FR MotoXXX. I am still trying to make perfect sense of the entire situation. Did she shoot you down after you pvssywhipped by saying you wanted a relationship instead of sex?

You left out that part....We know you didnt get some....but without that middle bit we cant really explain why if you get what i mean.

Tbh it sounds like it could have been a sh!t test. But you seem to think she was looking for a husband.


Would be nice to know how the rest of the convo went.
 
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Read again from the mindset of him chickening out.
 
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