"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FR: how i overplayed her

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Guys I had a good weekend....number closed 6 chicks, and the part i need analyzed is how I overworked my Fvck close last night on a HB 9 thirty five year old. Here goes........I got pretty drunk at a pool league banquet. We planned on going to the mining company which is a good hangout for hb's. But my cousin called me and told me there was a hot new waitress at the bar in the town I live. So I made a quick pit stop there and there were probably 8 hot chicks in there so my buddy and I decided to hang out there for awhile. I was working the waitress and noticed a guy and 2 chicks sitting at the table next to the dance floor. I made my way over there and started talking to them, introduced myself and found that the couple was married. They were all mid 30's. I got some good vibes off the single one so I talked for 30 seconds and left. Okay long story short(er) I wanted to fvck this chick. I didnt care if I got her number or not, I would never talk to her again. She leans over and whispers in my ear,"your hot and you know your fvcking hot, I wish I could tell you what kind of bad things I want to do to you in bed." Instantly I am like I got this in the bag. I respond with I am not ****y I am confident, then she tells me," you are confident arent you." Yep,.so I get up and leave. When I am gone I am conversating with all the chicks in there, and tell my buddies I got this chick in the bag.
Okay now I go back to close the deal, and she tells me she is not looking for a one night stand she wants more out of sex. and this is where I fvcked up. I tell her I am not into one night stands either, I was playing this chick like a fiddle. This is where I think I should have said all I want is a one night stand, to let this older chick know that I want sex with no strings attached. Oooh well I am sure I will see her again, and when I do, I am gonna act like I dont have a clue who she is. Just add insult to her injury. I will say this chick was on top of her game also. Before she told me what she wanted to do to me in bed, I had to ask her, "As far as I can tell you either really hate me or you really want me, one of the 2 and I cant figure it out." she responded with she really liked me.
I am looking for responses as to whether I should've told her all I want is a one night stand? I really dont care about this chick one way or another though, just looking for future ideas.
p.s. this convo with her was alot longer, but I didnt want to write it all out.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Can't everyone just TALK and get along???!!! ;)
 
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?!?!?!

Should I be assuming you didn't close her?

Seems like she wanted a FBuddy relationship. She's probably been reading sites on the web, or talking with friends, and she read the first rule of sexual intereaction "always express your interest".

When she told you she wanted more than sex, instead of only a ONS... what went through your head? You got scared because you didn't think you could totally blow her off after the first time you had sex?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You assume correctly when you assume that I didnt close on this one. But no she didnt want a Fbuddy relationship, she wanted a man that she can cook and clean for. The first thought through my head when she said she wanted more then sex was, "Nope, huh uh, nope, no way chick." After that I didnt even want it anymore. And I could leave it after once if it wasnt any good. But something told me this chick was gonna be a freak in the sack.
 
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You should have boned her that night, let her clean for you, used her as a pivot and a wingwoman... Wouldn't have hurt you in any way.

You do remember how to make a girl stop liking you right?

To your question "Should I have told her all I want is a one night stand"

No, you as a man also have the power of saying no to a relationship. You have the power to choose how far, and how exclusive a relationship is before and after anything happens between the two of you. Thinking anything less is supplication.
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
You misused that semicolon.
 
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Mr_knowit_all said:
Just a quick note; CONVERSATE is NOT a word!!!!!! You CONVERSE with someone.......

Rap music has had many deleterious affects on our society. The rampant use of that nonexistent word is one of them.
Rap music is just as stupid as latin and french. If you want to tell me why poetry and music in general are stupid as well go ahead. It's all relative dude.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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mrRuckus said:
You misused that semicolon.

You could make a case for that, but I still think it fits. A colon might have been more appropriate, but at least I didn't make up a word.
 

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Mr know it all, all I have to say is, If you are running through this forum picking apart peoples' english, you are definetly not putting in enough work in the field. I believe I will now refer to you as a keyboard jockey. And you can pick that apart!
 

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MotoXXX said:
Mr know it all, all I have to say is, If you are running through this forum picking apart peoples' english, you are definetly not putting in enough work in the field. I believe I will now refer to you as a keyboard jockey. And you can pick that apart!

Guys guys guys! Are we here to pick grammer? No....so who gives a sh!t?

Anyways back on topic...

You kinda jumped about in your FR MotoXXX. I am still trying to make perfect sense of the entire situation. Did she shoot you down after you pvssywhipped by saying you wanted a relationship instead of sex?

You left out that part....We know you didnt get some....but without that middle bit we cant really explain why if you get what i mean.

Tbh it sounds like it could have been a sh!t test. But you seem to think she was looking for a husband.


Would be nice to know how the rest of the convo went.
 
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Read again from the mindset of him chickening out.
 
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