"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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FR: Got her bra undone but nothing!

cA^

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Using this tip : http://www.sosuave.net/forum/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&threadid=38303

I read this yesterday morning, and as fate would have it a girl invited me over to her house later that day.

So I get there, we muck about and play pool in her back shed and then she makes lunch and we sit down on the couch and watch the cricket.

She finishes and says she has to go out and hang some washing up, shes gone for about 3mins.

Im laying down on her couch in the meantime, and when she gets back her moblie phone is ringing, and she misses the call (it was from her bf of 2 years or something, they fight a fair bit though).

So she sent a txt msg and I ask her, "wanna give me a massage" and she said "nah cant be bothered" so I said "do you want one?" and she said "yea ok".

So using the tip from this site, I got her to lay down on the couch on her stomache then I sat on her ass, my legs on either side of her.

I lightly massaged her for 10mins then went underneath her tshirt and massaged her bare skin, then unclipped the bra and continued massaging.

Note at this time she had her phone and sent about 2 txt messages to her bf because he knew I was over at her house and felt the need to call her 3 times while I was over, signs of an AFC :D?.

So I took her bra off (Her tshirt was still on, I didnt have enough time to memorise the tip on here ! ) and massaged her neck, kissed her ear and said "do you want to go back to your bedroom?" and she replied with something along the lines of "well im still together with bfsnamehere".

This is the point where I wasnt sure what to do, if I should have either kept going or stopped, in the end I didnt jump off her or anything, I just continued the massage and then asked her again something like "do you wanna go back to your room" and she replied with "im not really in the mood".

She wasnt in the mood because of him calling and txting her all the time, she prob felt guilty.

So I just finished off and sat next to her, watched some tv and before I left I gave her a hug and said "goodluck with your exam tomorrow" and had a huge smile on my face.

Now when I analyze this, I can see that

-Her current bf is a major afc
-Should I have kept going?
-Im still a vrgn so it's all good experience for me, and i'd like some of the more experienced guys here to give me some pointers and tell me what to do; should I wait for her to invite me around again or should I go around to her's again?

Thx for your time guys :cheer: !
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Ok, play it cool, you have this one in the bag. Be James Bond. If she invites you over say

"I can come over if sex is involved."

Or "Will you be in the mood this time?"

Say it almost dismisive dropping your voice on the last two or three words of either line. As if she is not interested in your offer and you don't care either way.

She would have fvcked you if she was in the mood. Im 80% sure.
 

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Mr Spitfire : thanks for the reply dude ! :D

Yea with her bf being the afc he is, txting her and calling her I think it really put her out of the mood, however I know i'm on a winner when she lets me undo her bra :D

Also, when she asked me to come over it was on msn messenger, she mostly talks to me on msn, not on the phone, is there any way I can impliment your tip on msn? will it work the same?

More advice welcome :D!

:cheer:
 

cA^

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Cmon guys, help an a young DJ :D

First FR i've ever posted :cool: need some tips / advice / comments please :woo:
 

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Sounds like you played this situation right.

She said she wasn't in the mood for a believable reason you were cool about it and not all eager and offended.

Yeah I think you'll get to hit it soon if she's genuinely interested in you.

Oh and for some reason I just feel I have to share what one of my buddies used to say to girl's when they'd give lame excuses for not wanting to have sex that usually convinced them to give it up everytime.

He'd stop what they were doing ie kissing or whatever get up as if he was about to leave and as she acts all shocked he says: "Sorry I just can't deal with girls who have intimacy issues." LOL, what a manipulative yet effective crock of **** line to say to someone!! :crackup:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yo Shezz :D thanks for the reply man, i've read a fair few of your posts in the 'tips' forum - you're something of a legend around here :D

I may be abit busy this week as i've got 2 exams (Monday and Wednesday) but after that im finished for the year :D

You reckon just give her a call and invite myself over to her house eh? There are a few after party exams ive been invited to so I should do alright at them, even if this girl isnt at them :D

Will see how it all pans out but if she starts chatting to me on msn and she's in the mood, i'll invite myself around again and go from there :cool:

Check your pm folder Shezz ;)
Love your work man, keep it up :cheer: !

More comments appriciated guys!
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler

Sarge On...
SARGE!!, oh man, this is the first time i have been here for 3 years but i still remember sarge the cat. thanks for flushing back all the forum memories with just two words
 

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Overall, you did a good job !

Originally posted by cA^
I just continued the massage and then asked her again something like "do you wanna go back to your room" and she replied with "im not really in the mood".
I dont think there was a need to ask her, what comes out of a girls mouth means nothing to me .... it's all about the body language. You should have picked her up and threw her on the couch or bed.
 

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Stop looking past the boyfriend issue. She wasn't "in the mood" because her boyfriend kept calling. Each call reminds her that she has a boyfriend and that she can't do this with you. To top it off, he kept calling. What's she going to do? Ignore his calls? Answer the phone while screaming "Oh yeah baby! Put that **** into me!"? No, dude!

It was just a bad time, man. Seriously. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Thanks for all the advice and tips guys, been really great :D

The stuff you learn off this site....damn! I would never had any idea on this kind of stuff before I found this site :cool: all the techniques etc. pretty awesome! :D

I've been invited to 4 after-exam parties, which are all on different dates; cannot wait for them! Expect a few possible FR ;) :cheer: !
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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