"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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FR: Got her bra undone but nothing!

cA^

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Using this tip : http://www.sosuave.net/forum/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&threadid=38303

I read this yesterday morning, and as fate would have it a girl invited me over to her house later that day.

So I get there, we muck about and play pool in her back shed and then she makes lunch and we sit down on the couch and watch the cricket.

She finishes and says she has to go out and hang some washing up, shes gone for about 3mins.

Im laying down on her couch in the meantime, and when she gets back her moblie phone is ringing, and she misses the call (it was from her bf of 2 years or something, they fight a fair bit though).

So she sent a txt msg and I ask her, "wanna give me a massage" and she said "nah cant be bothered" so I said "do you want one?" and she said "yea ok".

So using the tip from this site, I got her to lay down on the couch on her stomache then I sat on her ass, my legs on either side of her.

I lightly massaged her for 10mins then went underneath her tshirt and massaged her bare skin, then unclipped the bra and continued massaging.

Note at this time she had her phone and sent about 2 txt messages to her bf because he knew I was over at her house and felt the need to call her 3 times while I was over, signs of an AFC :D?.

So I took her bra off (Her tshirt was still on, I didnt have enough time to memorise the tip on here ! ) and massaged her neck, kissed her ear and said "do you want to go back to your bedroom?" and she replied with something along the lines of "well im still together with bfsnamehere".

This is the point where I wasnt sure what to do, if I should have either kept going or stopped, in the end I didnt jump off her or anything, I just continued the massage and then asked her again something like "do you wanna go back to your room" and she replied with "im not really in the mood".

She wasnt in the mood because of him calling and txting her all the time, she prob felt guilty.

So I just finished off and sat next to her, watched some tv and before I left I gave her a hug and said "goodluck with your exam tomorrow" and had a huge smile on my face.

Now when I analyze this, I can see that

-Her current bf is a major afc
-Should I have kept going?
-Im still a vrgn so it's all good experience for me, and i'd like some of the more experienced guys here to give me some pointers and tell me what to do; should I wait for her to invite me around again or should I go around to her's again?

Thx for your time guys :cheer: !
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ok, play it cool, you have this one in the bag. Be James Bond. If she invites you over say

"I can come over if sex is involved."

Or "Will you be in the mood this time?"

Say it almost dismisive dropping your voice on the last two or three words of either line. As if she is not interested in your offer and you don't care either way.

She would have fvcked you if she was in the mood. Im 80% sure.
 

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Mr Spitfire : thanks for the reply dude ! :D

Yea with her bf being the afc he is, txting her and calling her I think it really put her out of the mood, however I know i'm on a winner when she lets me undo her bra :D

Also, when she asked me to come over it was on msn messenger, she mostly talks to me on msn, not on the phone, is there any way I can impliment your tip on msn? will it work the same?

More advice welcome :D!

:cheer:
 

cA^

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Cmon guys, help an a young DJ :D

First FR i've ever posted :cool: need some tips / advice / comments please :woo:
 

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Sounds like you played this situation right.

She said she wasn't in the mood for a believable reason you were cool about it and not all eager and offended.

Yeah I think you'll get to hit it soon if she's genuinely interested in you.

Oh and for some reason I just feel I have to share what one of my buddies used to say to girl's when they'd give lame excuses for not wanting to have sex that usually convinced them to give it up everytime.

He'd stop what they were doing ie kissing or whatever get up as if he was about to leave and as she acts all shocked he says: "Sorry I just can't deal with girls who have intimacy issues." LOL, what a manipulative yet effective crock of **** line to say to someone!! :crackup:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yo Shezz :D thanks for the reply man, i've read a fair few of your posts in the 'tips' forum - you're something of a legend around here :D

I may be abit busy this week as i've got 2 exams (Monday and Wednesday) but after that im finished for the year :D

You reckon just give her a call and invite myself over to her house eh? There are a few after party exams ive been invited to so I should do alright at them, even if this girl isnt at them :D

Will see how it all pans out but if she starts chatting to me on msn and she's in the mood, i'll invite myself around again and go from there :cool:

Check your pm folder Shezz ;)
Love your work man, keep it up :cheer: !

More comments appriciated guys!
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler

Sarge On...
SARGE!!, oh man, this is the first time i have been here for 3 years but i still remember sarge the cat. thanks for flushing back all the forum memories with just two words
 

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Overall, you did a good job !

Originally posted by cA^
I just continued the massage and then asked her again something like "do you wanna go back to your room" and she replied with "im not really in the mood".
I dont think there was a need to ask her, what comes out of a girls mouth means nothing to me .... it's all about the body language. You should have picked her up and threw her on the couch or bed.
 

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Stop looking past the boyfriend issue. She wasn't "in the mood" because her boyfriend kept calling. Each call reminds her that she has a boyfriend and that she can't do this with you. To top it off, he kept calling. What's she going to do? Ignore his calls? Answer the phone while screaming "Oh yeah baby! Put that **** into me!"? No, dude!

It was just a bad time, man. Seriously. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Thanks for all the advice and tips guys, been really great :D

The stuff you learn off this site....damn! I would never had any idea on this kind of stuff before I found this site :cool: all the techniques etc. pretty awesome! :D

I've been invited to 4 after-exam parties, which are all on different dates; cannot wait for them! Expect a few possible FR ;) :cheer: !
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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