"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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FR: Getting the #

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I just went out to drink with a couple friends. I wasn't thinking about women. One bar was lame, but the second had a couple girls with one guy following them. I talked to the hotter of the two. She's 23. She just got a master's in social work. She was trying to brag. but I kept ripping on the masochistic nature of her profession. The guy who was after her came up and hugged me, like that was his attempt at an amog. She had made fun of him to me beforehand. I was about to leave, and said to her," I'm going to put you in my phone as 'social work girl.' What is your number?" She tried to tell me her name, and I said, "no. no, you're Social Work Girl. That's your name."

She ate that up. I don't care what your name is, just give me your number, which I got, all while the clinger crossed his arms and stared angrily. Sorry, kid, I'm twice your age and 10x better with women. You should check out this site called www.sosuave.net
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Nice one, it seemed pretty smooth and you handled the ****block from the guy well.

But man I'd hate to be in that guys position. It's so damn awkward pretending to be a girls friend when you want more. I'd rather just ask them out when I've recently just met a girl, and risk a rejection or whatever. That way you know where you stand with her, and can move on if she doesn't want anything romantic. Otherwise, you end up holding on to some fantasy that she might end up with you someday, and that fantasy comes crashing down when you see her interested in someone else, which is what happened here.
 

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Do you want a medal?

The bragging nature of this post reeks of insecurity, and possible bull****
 

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The bragging nature of this post reeks of insecurity, and possible bull****
So what? Was anyone on this board there to witness Bible's number close? Nope. Could he be making it up? Sure, anyone on the internet can make up anything they want. At least this isn't as bad as some other sh!t I read on the net dealing with similar red pill stuff *coughrooshcough*.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Overcoming the obvious c0ckblock is always a great move, well done.

C0ckblocking is one of the lowest forms of humanity, it should automatically result in getting your man card revoked.
 

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Good work on getting the number, but numbers really mean nothing these days.

It only counts if she actually goes out with you.
 

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The bragging nature of this post reeks of insecurity, and possible bull****
lol. Trust me, I can make up better lies than just getting a phone number.

I'll text her later and see how it goes. I'm sure she is as hung over as me. I just slept til 2 pm.
 

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One important point to note is the difference between hitting on a girl who is with a guy she likes, versus a girl who is being pestered by a guy she doesn't like. The latter was the case last night. I would never try to steal some guy's woman. But when the guy goes to the bathroom and the woman rips on him ruthlessly while he's away, she's telling me she doesn't like him and wants to talk to me.
 

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Regardless of why the OP is posting this story (probably a subconscious drive that none of us nor he is aware of) you shouldn't slate it. It's often said that it's good for men to observe other men with game, just like learning any skill. You just got a free lesson.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The bragging nature of this post reeks of insecurity, and possible bull****
It is a field report. He is just telling it like it is.
Also, he is spot on the pony with this. I have said it a dozen times before... Women love it when a guy challenges them.
Women do not like it if a guy just agrees with them always and does everything they say. They get interest in a guy who is contrary, aloof, and who is just a little c0cky. They want a man who also shows dominance, and who is not easy to dominate. Women like it when a man teases with them a bit. You cannot be soft and bow down to the woman, that only makes it seem as though you are her lesser or that you are weak. This is why the guys who give everything to women never get anything in return. This is why the nice guy never wins... It is why the woman keeps falling for the "bad boy" because they challenge her.

OP, good job applying this concept... You know your "game" theory and how to use it.
 

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One important point to note is the difference between hitting on a girl who is with a guy she likes, versus a girl who is being pestered by a guy she doesn't like. The latter was the case last night. I would never try to steal some guy's woman. But when the guy goes to the bathroom and the woman rips on him ruthlessly while he's away, she's telling me she doesn't like him and wants to talk to me.
Me personally I just ain't into bragging

"I'm twice your age and 10x better with women"

And?

Come on man you have been through some **** in your time, it doesn't cost to be classy in victory.
 

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It's not hard to be10x better than someone that awful.

Regardless, I texted her once yesterday, and she didn't respond. Oh well.
 

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"Social Work Girl" is catchy, but you had a real name too I think. Mary? Is that right?

I can't blame anyone that young for sobering up and re-considering talking to me. It's a small town. Maybe I'll see her again sometime. I'm not texting her again, though.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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@Bible_Belt your text seems a little bit need and try hard. Feels like you're trying to manufacture a certain tone.
 

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The bragging nature of this post reeks of insecurity, and possible bull****
lmao. Did you see his fighting video in the "best martial art" thread? Tell that **** to his face after watching it!
I just went out to drink with a couple friends. I wasn't thinking about women. One bar was lame, but the second had a couple girls with one guy following them. I talked to the hotter of the two. She's 23. She just got a master's in social work. She was trying to brag. but I kept ripping on the masochistic nature of her profession. The guy who was after her came up and hugged me, like that was his attempt at an amog. She had made fun of him to me beforehand. I was about to leave, and said to her," I'm going to put you in my phone as 'social work girl.' What is your number?" She tried to tell me her name, and I said, "no. no, you're Social Work Girl. That's your name."

She ate that up. I don't care what your name is, just give me your number, which I got, all while the clinger crossed his arms and stared angrily. Sorry, kid, I'm twice your age and 10x better with women. You should check out this site called www.sosuave.net
Good ****, I was saying it some weeks ago...we need to share our stories so the depressed DJ see how funny this whole game stuff can be. It creates a community atmosphere too. Let us know how this develops.
 

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No worries. I appreciate constructive criticism. I was going for something easy for her to answer, just a "yes" question to get her responding. Hell, maybe she ended up with the clinger. I left the three of them at the bar.
 

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Nothing wrong with that text, in my opinion. End of the day, a number from a short interaction isn't gonna have a huge success rate. So many variables. Is she single? Is she drunk? Does she live in this city? Haha. I've had some interactions with women I thought were really great and never heard from them again. And vice versa. Had super short interactions with women and thought, there's no way she's invested but it turned into dates.

I've noticed some girls don't like too much co ckiness either. That's fine over time, but in a short interaction, that chick might be in an emotional state that isn't receptive to it. We often forget while women generally like bad boys, they do have crazy emotional states that switch up constantly. They're not a static object.

For the newbies who think otherwise, you're playing a numbers game with women. Even Brad Pitt has been turned down before. Probably not as much as you have, though.
 
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