"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: f-closed LJBF chick that I've known for 6 years

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Gentlemen,

Last night I experienced one of my most satisfying f-closes ever!

Quick background:

Known this chick for 6 years, there has always been an attraction, but nothing apart from the ad-hoc kissing had happened in the past. Both of us have seen other people in the past 6 years, but I'd been dying to f-close her since I first met her.

This chick is a HB8.5, blond wavy hair down below her shoulders, size 8, very stunning.

Last week:

Her (sms): do you wanna do dinner/bar/club on next thursday?
me (sms): sure, lets do dinner/bar. I have work the next day.
her (sms): cool, well lets see what happens. i'm looking after my ex-boyfriend's place while he is away. so you can crash here if you want.

So....

Last night we meet up, we do drinks, i laid down some serious NLP on her. I told her she was my "pivot" and she had to help me pick up women.

She only enjoyed this for the first couple of sets, but then the competative characteristics came out and before I knew it, she had her toungue down my throat!

The look on the barman's face was priceless as we had told him we were cousins earlier! :p

So, the evening went on. Even though she was showing interest, I still made her work hard for my attention by opening a couple more sets infront of her, only to have her come and drag me away.

We left the club, went back to her ex's place. Really nice place in a posh part of London. The guy is a total ass-hole so I didnt really feel bad about being there.

To cut the story short, I f-closed her there and then on the sofa for almost 2 hours.

Got a bit freaked out when she started crying afterwards, but it was happy tears. (PHEW!)

So..... I got to sleep at 6:15am, and had to be up at 9am for work. I'm still a little drunk, but who cares! I'm just buzzing!

2006 is gonna be a good year!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Great post dude. I know exactly what you are feeling right now and its fuvking awesome. I had a similar experience last night and I feel like I can pick-up Jessica Alba if I saw her this week.
 

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Size 8? Dress sizes vary quite a bit. What are her circumferences and how tall is she?
 

Fash

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Size 8 in the UK is quite slim. Model kinda slim.

She is 5'7", blonde, half italian, half greek. I'll see if I can upload a photo.

:)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Distant Light

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Nice job

btw both those girls are pretty nice
 

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Cheers Man! Good Sh!t... :cool:

Pretty good lookin chicks...

I say you tag the other one now...

then gettem both... hehehee


Happy New Years'

SuaveOn'
-DarkLight-


P.S. Well played w. the Pivot scenario. That would bring out any chicks insecurities/claws.
 

Fash

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Originally posted by DarkLight


I say you tag the other one now...

Already did, xmas eve 2 years ago. :D

Now getting them both at the same time???? highly unlikely but a nice thought! :rolleyes:
 

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L777

are you the guy in the picture? I pictured some1 called Fash to be a big black dude, like John 'Fash' Fashnu.

Anyway, good on ya and happy new year!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Good show, old chap. Well done!
 

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You seriously think that "serious NLP" got her? :D I beg to differ. I think that the competitiveness was all that was needed. I almost think she had it all planned out (her ex was out of town, she "planted" the idea in your head by "suggesting" that you crash at his place, and asking you out for drinks) However your approach has it's merits. She did her part and you did yours, but I seriously doubt that it was all you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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that's the ultimate conquest, man. ridding yourself of the LJBF is one of the most difficult things a guy can do.


i've got an old LJBF coming down for mardi gras and i had planned on doing pretty much exactly what you did. use her as a pivot and make her kick up the competition. if i get to pound it, great. if not, it's mardi gras, there will be tons and tons of prospects, i'm guaranteed a lay anyway.
 

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muahahaha, the LJBF->FWB conversion is underway

she called me up to talk about mardi gras, and i told her how she could get free drinks. (go flirt with a guy and get him to buy her a drink.)
her: "i wouldn't want to do that, i'm going to be there to spend time with you."
me: "well then i guess you'll just be thirsty while you're here. i make girls earn their drinks."
her: "well i bet i can earn them."


i gotta give credit to fash though, this LJBF->FWB conversion is already harder than any DJ game I've ever laid down.
 

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Originally posted by reyalp
i gotta give credit to fash though
Na....

Its all you man. Just remeber, although f-closing a slightly drunk chick is kinda against the DJ rules, when it comes to an LJBF, it kinda helps! :cheer:
 

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Awesome pics there Fash! Nothing better than a FR with pics!

Although I kinda disagree about the blonde being an 8.5... To me she is a 7 at best.
 

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NeonBase said:
Awesome pics there Fash! Nothing better than a FR with pics!

Although I kinda disagree about the blonde being an 8.5... To me she is a 7 at best.

Nothing like E-ratings.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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