"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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FR: Approached another girl at the mall yesterday.

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Yeah, I've gotten far with girls before but I only get a successful approach every now and then. I'm basically practice getting successful approaches in more consistantly and I'll do that by becoming more and more unreactive to what the chick is doing/saying. I'm going to aim to more consistantly get successful approaches.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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superchill89 said:
alamar... why are you giving advice. weren't you the guy that posted about having no friends or something
haha you sound like you know me from somewhere else.
I can give good advice, just not really apply it to myself... which is stupid.
 

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Elstud, might I suggest an approach journal?

It would probably be better than the one approach one thread like your doing.
 

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Speed seduction is something way way different. Way different. And the reason why he's getting the results he's getting is because he's creeping the girls out initially. What he needs to do is read that little list Bling put up, and make sure he's not doing any of those things during an interaction.

El stud, mr confidence, viper, what have you, I think it's great that you're atleast out there trying. All you need to do now is make sure ur not doing anything that's listed on the list Bling put up, because it's obvious you're creeping the girls out right away. You don't need to worry about unreactiveness, you don't need to worry about your "magnetism" theory either. One step at a time, buddy. You need to work on your opening.
See, I wouldn't know. I don't believe in the manuevers, theories, strategies, tricks, and gimmicks, and thats the point I was trying to make. It's really not some science. How do people who've never come across these websites pull their share of the babes. It's because they evolved into men, are naturals, or are just being themselves, i.e. genuine confidence.

Pook said it well, excerpt from 'Be a Man' post [["His goal now is to sleep with as many women as possible and figure out all the tricks and tactics to do so. He focuses on calculation rather then natural joy. When a woman comes, he pulls out a chart of all the 'moves' and 'tactics' with arrows and patterns. He unleashes his lap top, accesses a Lay Guide, and reviews his strategy. Time passes and once was fun becomes meaningless.]]
 

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Touchout said:
Elstud, might I suggest an approach journal?

It would probably be better than the one approach one thread like your doing.
Nah, trust me I tried that two times before. You make a journal and no one f*cking replies. Eventually the only post in the thread are you posting about your approaches.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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you've improved alot from your linked approach journal... I think you'd only have good success if you were having very interesting convos with your approaches though :p
 

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Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
you've improved alot from your linked approach journal... I think you'd only have good success if you were having very interesting convos with your approaches though :p
Convos for rapport. She most likely wouldn't be interested if you started convo before she was attracted. Yeah, I use to approach girls trying for rapport and I actually thought I was doing something. Yeah, I was doing something wrong, opening trying for rapport.
 

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your convos were mostly preplanned... like you asked everyone the same thing.
you should use your surroundings and practice different things, even if they are lame, the point is to be out there doing something.
 

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it sounds like you being ugly + dumb pick up lines is scaring them away.
 

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eminence said:
it sounds like you being ugly + dumb pick up lines is scaring them away.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think he's just talking a little too much on his approaching.
 

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Haha, it's just that he came off as ****y saying "you being ugly". And dumb pick up lines? No, it's called a direct approach. If the girl says "I think it's good thing" you say "Great! I think your really hot!" if she says its a bad thing you say "Then I'm about to say something really bad. I think your really hot!". Besides, most walking targets are going to walk away, but are you gonna give up just because of something THEY do?
 

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I am totally lost now.. what are we talking about?
 

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Eh, it doesn't matter. Well, I'm going to go to the mall today and tommorow, hopefully I get better results.
 

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you should make up your own creative pick up lines instead of using other peoples.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
you should make up your own creative pick up lines instead of using other peoples.
Speak for yourself. Besides, they're not lines, they're something to get started off of. Once your started, you just talk.
 

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you are definitely using prethought lines... if you're creative and funny, you'll catch the girl's interest right away with her thinking "this guy is creative and funny" and if you progress well, she'll actually want to talk to you instead of having you rant about random unrelated things.

talk about common things that she can connect to you with, like if you're in the mall lol just ask her what her favorite store is.. it's so simple, you're asking about HER, and it's better than a music survey :p
 
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