"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FR: Almost got a ONS with an asian lady

Vanilla

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I ****ed up but my chances aren't over yet.

Last night was so much fun regardless that I did not get laid. I got in the lounge after 9 so there was no cover charge, but the place was empty! I chatted up with my friend that I met there and after an hour it started getting packed. Then an older asian woman (about in her 40s) came in and turns out she was a friend of my friend, so he introduced us. At first she wasn't into a drink, just water, but as the night went on she finally had one of my drinks. (I think it helped when I gave her the cherries off my drinks) There was fluff talk for a while then the dance floor got good music so all the night I was dragging her around. LOTS of physical contact, she was grabbing my butt alot I noticed, but I couldn't manage to get any kissing in. My friend soon left even when I tried to get him hooked up with some blondes.

We both needed air, so we went outside for more fluff talk... this is where things started getting worse for me.

She noticed that I was really drunk (not really, I could remember almost everything she said), so she was worried about me getting home safely. I couldn't think up how to make something happen, so I just told her I'd be fine. She insisted on driving me to my home, but I feared that she'd just drop me off at home then I'd have to pick up my car somehow next morning.

I drove home more frustrated than drunk, but she's going to my friend's BBQ on Monday, so I'm hoping to try again. If not, she mentioned she'd bring a female friend of hers and I might hit on her.

Regardless, thoughts on how to do a better job? I didn't want her number, I wanted to get my d!ck wet
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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NewGuy72

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How was this a "almost ONS" when you didn't even kiss her. This past weekend I was out clubbing with friends, made out with a few girls and there were nowhere near a ONS.
 

Vanilla

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Allurre said:
Heh, I wouldn't mess with a chick in her 40s, especially when half her age. Go for her friend, hopefully younger.
She was worse looking and maybe older who knows.

They still didn't budge even with weed and drinks last night. Talk about difficult! I'm moving on from those dead birds.
 

Sofomore

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LOL @ almost ONS.

You were no where near getting laid man. You might need a reality check.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sofomore said:
LOL @ almost ONS.

You were no where near getting laid man. You might need a reality check.
AFAIC The reality check is that almost doesn't count when going after chicks! Almost only counts in horseshoes and grenade throwing! Almost had a chick is the equivalent of no, it didn't happen.

BTW you didn't kiss her. And you plan on striking cold iron. ROTFL.
 
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