FR/(almost an LR): Clubbing Part II

[h2o]

What’s up. Last night was my second clubbing experience, and it was on.

11PM
Me and two other friends go to a bar, and have a drink. We just chill and chit chat for a little bit…I flirt with one of the bartender chicks. After about half an hour, just chilling, watching some pool…I talk to another guy, and we head out.

11:30PM
We arrive at the club. I walk in like I’m the sh*t, because I am…like I own the place. We head over and lounge in some couches, because there’s barely anyone there yet. Just talk for a little bit.

12AM
I see one of my other friends, and go over and talk to him for a little bit. He’s like a natural DJ, he’s a real cool/alpha guy…knows pretty much everyone in the club. Anyway, I chat with him a bit, then go back and have a drink with my friends. It’s supposed to be ladies night, but barely any ladies are in the place so far.

12:25AM
I’m chilling by the bar talking to some other guys…we exchange names. They seem cool, and we just talk about trying to find girls to approach. Then I head to the dance floor with my other friend who I met up earlier with. We just dance in a circle, and some guy’s break-dancing in the middle…it’s pretty cool. I’m just having fun.

Approach #1
Then I spot two chicks standing by themselves. I go and open them. The black Hb9 (she was fine), is giving me solid eyecontact. I ask them where they’re from and stuff like that, no special lines…I just opened with “hey.” I pull the Hb9 on the dance floor after like 2min of chit chat…I’m hoping it would open her up a bit…she seemed a little shy. Damn she can move. She grinds up on me really well…

I don’t know why the **** I ejected on this one. Since not many people were dancing, everyone was like watching us grind, and like another two black dudes come up and try to grind on her. I head off the dance floor, and she holds my hand and comes with me…I wasn’t trying to lead her off or anything either, but she seemed into me I guess. Oh well, I just took her back to her friend and told them “have fun tonight” and left. Next time I won’t eject so soon.

Approach #2
I head back to the floor, and just dance. Then this big girl comes and grinds on me. It’s alright though, and we get up and dance on the stage. I’m thinking it’s okay, because her friends were cute, and I could hook up with them? Anyway, we dance on the stage for quite a bit, she’s digging me, and asks my name, tells me hers, etc. We sit down and I kino her for a bit. I’m just having fun, no intention of hooking up, duh…I realize she’s digging me a bit too much, so I bolt out of there and lost her in the crowd

I approached like two other girls to dance, but they were AWs I guess, because they said, “nah, I’m good…just dancing with friends.”

My two friends I came to the club with keep walking around and just drinking. One is a bit cooler than the other, he actually tries one or two approaches, the other one just wants to head out. …I’m like, “dude, the party’s just getting started”

I get another drink. And the bartender is a real hottie. Hb9, definitely. And she’s flirting with me, and we flirt for like a minute or two. I get some stares from some other dudes…she smiles at me a ton. But I figure there’s really no point, cause she works there…I’ll probably see her again anyway. We don’t exchange names or anything.

Approach #3
I walk up to the bar on the other side where my friends are, and this petite Hb6ish is giving me a lot of eyecontact, and we smile at each other. I knew I had her that second I saw her. It was on. Anyway, it’s fvcking crazy, because I’m like “what’s your name?” and she tells me, and asks my name. And then, she must be with some dude, who turns around and says to me “hey that’s a nice shirt dude”

For a second, I’m thinking, man this guy must be a PUA because that’s a pretty typical AMOG line, like “nice shirt, I had something like that in highschool.” But he doesn’t AMOG me. He just introduces himself…he’s like “I’m A.A.” (dude is from Sosuave, but he’s also from the PUA “lair” in my area…he knows Mystery and DavidD and sh*t)

I was supposed to meet up with him actually tonight, but just happened to bump into him like this, it was crazy how I just opened the girl he came here with. And so, we start talking for a bit about club style, and he goes and chills with the girl for a little bit, hits up the DJ. I go back with my friends.

Approach #4
I see two chicks just lounging on these sofas. They’re wearing glasses, and possibly a bit chubby, but one is like an Hb6, the other Hb6.5 …seriously, there were like barely any girls to approach tonight. Anyway, I chat them up…they both go to my school. They seem like freaks, I pull them on the dance floor, and dance between them. When I pulled one, I held both her hands, and this salsa thing (gimmeyofonenumba taught it to me in my previous clubbing FR thread), where I hold both hands, and it’s really easy to turn them around, twirl them and sh*t. It gets a laugh, and seems girls love it. Anyway, they took turns grinding on either side of me. Then we go sit, and I chat them a bit, get some kino on the Hb6, and get her number.

I head back to the dance floor with some dudes I met, and some friends. We dance. Then that fattie girl finds me again, I pretend like I don’t know her to get her off me. She seems disgusted and leaves…sweet, because I was scared she might kiss me.
Then I go talk to the dude from the “lair,” AA, and his friend, the girl I opened. I buy them a round of drinks. I offered, it’s not like I’m being overly nice or sh*t, because I’m just naturally like that. It’s not like I’m supplicating or sh*t like that. Anyway, there’s like this wet t-shirt contest, and the dance stops for like 10-15min. I didn’t know about it, neither did my friends.

I get lost in the crowd and see some other guys I know. A few other guys from my dormitory…I talk to them a bit, seems like they come to this club a lot. Goddamn, my social proof was like fvcking crazy tonight. I talked to/ knew half the fvcking club. This is big, because people look at you like you’re some big shot, and I got lots of eyecontact from the few girls there.

After the t-shirt contest thing…btw, that fat chick was a contestant also…damn she was huge…hahaha, ewww.

Anyway, I go back and find the Hb6 who came here with AA. AA starts opening this set of like 4 chicks, so I go occupy his friend, Hb6. I pull her to the floor and we start dancing. I do that “salsa” move with her, and she’s digging it. We grind for a few songs, then go sit down. I chat with her for a few minutes, and I pulled the stupidest line…

I was saying she was a good dancer, and she was like “you’re pretty good too” and I said “yeah, I’ve heard only gay guys are really good dancers” and she’s like “are you gay?” and I look at her funny…and I go for the kiss. We make-out for about two minutes…and I pull away and smile, saying ****ily, “do I kiss like I’m gay?” and she smiles, and then we make-out for another couple of minutes then we head back to the dance floor and grind for a long time. We’re definitely digging each other…and she says she asks what I’m doing afterwards, and suggests going home with me. She also bought me a shot that was more expensive than the one I bought her, so it’s cool

I leave her with my friend and go for another approach.

Approach #5
This girls is a real *****. She’s so monotone and makes no eye contact when she’s talking to me. What a *****. Anyway, I said something like “you look like your dog just got ran over…you’re in a club…lighten up and have some fun.” She’s an idiot. I left within 30 seconds of opening her. She’s like “I’m okay” fvck that.

I go back to my chick. And we wait for the club to clear out before bouncing. She left her purse in AA’s car, so we wait for them, and then go pick her back up. We don’t do much in the car, and we get back to my place at like 3am.

We start making out, but I don’t have condoms, and I tell her than I don’t. So, I’m like we can just cuddle. We make-out more on my bed for a while, and I’m feeling up her shirt and sh*t. She stops, and I seriously feel really hot, so I stop too. I don’t have air-conditioning…and I supplicated a few times, opening the window for her and closing it and sh*t and even gave her a back massage. She was gonna give me some head but didn’t…and actually, I’m totally glad I didn’t have a condom, because we talked for a lot, and learnt that she’s a real slut who gets around a lot, and I wouldn’t want to **** her. She actually wanted to a lot…and looked to see if she had condoms in her purse but didn’t. We were kino’ing a lot throughout the night, and she kept me up. I wanted to seriously kick her out.

Like she was actually pretty annoying, and I went outside and called my friend to think up ways to kick her out. We cuddled until like 8am, then slept until like 1pm, and finally we laid in bed for an hour before going to get some coffee. She got her car and dropped me off back at my place. I think she wanted me to kiss her but I didn’t…because I didn’t want her to get the impression that I’m digging her. Because I wasn’t. She’s actually pretty cute, I’d bump her to an Hb7, but the fact that she fvcked three guys in the past week doesn’t float well with me....

Anyway, I gave her my number, she kept wanting to hangout tonight, but I told her I can’t. I don’t know if she’ll call me, hopefully she’ll get the picture that I wasn’t digging her, because I was acting bored and sh*t.

 

[h2o]

Anyway, that’s my FR/ (I could have an LR but didn’t because I didn’t have a condom, and I’m glad I didn’t) Clubbing Report Pt.2. Second time in a club, and went all out. I’m thinking if I pull at this rate, I’ll be the King of Clubs in no time. I’m loving clubs. And I just had a fvcking great time, regardless of what happened. My friend was like, let’s not go clubbing again…hahahaha…don’t be like my friend…be like me. Go get yourselves some ass.

I actually did a few more than 5 approaches, but the other 2-3 I got rejected, and they were way too short anyway. Like I said, there were only like 25-35 girls in the club, including the 6-7 chicks working there...so I got some good part of it. I did my best...but I'm gonna get even better

You guys definitely gotta get out there in the field, because it is so fvcking easy, it’s not even funny.

I do have two main questions anyway:

1) how do you respectfully kick a girl out of your room if you're not feeling her? i mean, she was my friend's friend, so i didn't want to be an ass either, but how do you go about that?

2) would you fvck a girl who you know has been out that much? just for the heck of it? i mean, i got hard-ons the whole time, but my i was telling her i didn't want to fvck, but she could feel my d!ck, on her, so i basically like lying to her...you know? anyway...

Thanks for reading, input/comments/criticism appreciated.

-h2o

 

[Hit]

nice man.. keep it up :woo:

 

[MidnightResistance]

Dude, if you're protected and you liked this chick, bang her. Sadly you weren't and you had to have a 'conversation' instead, which put you off her. Had you been prepared you'd probably be seeing her.

How the hell she got to telling you she banged 3 guys this week worries me. That's something she would discuss with her 'girlfriends'.

 

[h2o]

Originally posted by Hit
nice man.. keep it up :woo:

thanks bro.

Originally posted by MidnightResistance
Dude, if you're protected and you liked this chick, bang her. Sadly you weren't and you had to have a 'conversation' instead, which put you off her. Had you been prepared you'd probably be seeing her.

How the hell she got to telling you she banged 3 guys this week worries me. That's something she would discuss with her 'girlfriends'.

nah, i wasn't protected.

actually, i exaggerated/lied. she hadn't banged 3 guys this week, i made that up. she banged a guy on wednesday night. i was asking her about what's like the freakiest/kinkiest thing she's done...and that night the dude's parents were awake in the next room.

yeah, she really kept pushing for us to have sex. i don't know...you're right, i gotta be prepared next time atleast. thanks for the advice.

 

[snintel]

How exactly do you chat girls up at clubs? I went last night and it's so loud, you literally can't hear anyone unless you whisper in their ear.. and even then they still might not hear you. Even in the area with tables/lounge is loud as hell.

Anyways, my game is verbal.... so how am I supposed to pick up girls when my value is pretty much not on display since I can't say anything? This is why clubs are frustrating me..

 

[h2o]

Originally posted by snintel
How exactly do you chat girls up at clubs? I went last night and it's so loud, you literally can't hear anyone unless you whisper in their ear.. and even then they still might not hear you. Even in the area with tables/lounge is loud as hell.

Anyways, my game is verbal.... so how am I supposed to pick up girls when my value is pretty much not on display since I can't say anything? This is why clubs are frustrating me..

Yeah, my first outting at a club...I had a similar problem. But then I realized you gotta keep the conversations light and fun. Don't be asking too many questions, or saying too much that could be difficult to understand.

I gotta say, I love clubs now actually, because there is no such thing as an awkward silence. You can just stare into her eyes or apply kino when there's a dead spot.

Yes, it's loud...true. But, here's my suggestion...

...make eyecontact/smile at girls between the bar and dance floor. Then walk up, have some playful convo...tease them about not knowing how to dance or something. Get them laughing...then in a few minutes or so, pull them on the dance floor...get some heavier kino going...press on her hard, etc. Then after a few songs, lead her to sit somewhere in the back/outskirts of the club. Keep going with the light convo...and go for the kiss or whatever.

I'll talk about light/fun stuff, like she moves good on the dance floor, or playing hard to get...etc, etc. And then one or two lines that I like to use (although I'm not into lines much) are:

1) do you even know what you're drinking? and then you drink their drink...or get a laugh...gets them going (this one is courtesy of Casino, sosuave member)

or...this one i made up myself:

2) you tell her she dances well...if she says you do too...you say...yeah, i've heard only gay guys dance well...she asks if you're gay ...here you give her a funny look, and go for the kiss...kind of like some "mental kino" and then you say something like ...do i kiss like a gay guy?

just make something fun up ...you may think that's a wack line ...but i like to keep a girl on her toes and having fun

btw ...maybe like you said you're just not good at clubs. i've recently realized that clubs are where my game is at. only my second time i'm pulling easily. player_supreme says something like "you gotta spit game where you're most marketable at"

i'm a thin dude, but i think i have a good sense of style/dress and i look good...i'm more of a natural body language type guy...so i'm liking clubs

try day game if you're not into clubs...it's not for everyone ...just like day game isn't for every one either
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on a less relevant note...that chick just called me...and wanted to chill again...i'll be protected next time...she'll make for a good fb anyway i'd say ...she seems a bit clingy though, because i was initially thinking it'd only be a ons

 

[Magico]

I've been reading your fr's and you've improved a lot. This was a good fr. Keep it up.

To answer your questions, 1)you can always make up something like you need to get up early for medical tests or smthing.
2)I wouldn't do her if I thought she was around too much. I'd let her give me a BJ instead.

 

[brenbaus]

Originally posted by snintel
How exactly do you chat girls up at clubs? I went last night and it's so loud, you literally can't hear anyone unless you whisper in their ear.. and even then they still might not hear you. Even in the area with tables/lounge is loud as hell.

Anyways, my game is verbal.... so how am I supposed to pick up girls when my value is pretty much not on display since I can't say anything? This is why clubs are frustrating me..

The whole point of whisper in her ear is to make her feel a connection with you, because you are very close to her.

If you are really feeling her, use the back of your hand to "accidentaly" touch her boob every couple of times you come in to talk to her, but dont just put your hand on it and then pull it off. leave it there the whole time you are whispering in her ear, this let her know you are interested, espicially when you do it more than once. I Love kino, its fvcking awesome

 

[h2o]

Originally posted by Magico
I've been reading your fr's and you've improved a lot. This was a good fr. Keep it up.

To answer your questions, 1)you can always make up something like you need to get up early for medical tests or smthing.
2)I wouldn't do her if I thought she was around too much. I'd let her give me a BJ instead.

okay, that seems like a plausible excuse...i'll use something along those lines next time. ...yeah, sounds good.

thanks...still got a ton farther to go though. :woo:

 

[MercutioTHEGREAT]

Wow loved the post man. I think your definately a Active DJ now. I can't wait till i can do FR's like that....nice **** keep it up...oh and with the girl.. I say good job for not fvcking her,if you would have you would have lost power i think....if she's been through 3 guys n one week that's just way too much even if it was for a guy...I'd just like to smash like one chick all week than 3 thats nasty as hell

 

[green69]

I do have 2 points to make:

1) About that girl that was being a 'b!tch' don't just call a girl that just because she wasn't into you. If some girl you didn't like started talking to you and stuff...and you weren't interested at all and didn't make much eye contact - does that make you a b!tch? No, you just two weren't compatible that's all there is to it...

2) You probably already noticed that dance floor approaches don't usually work as well as talking to girls at the bar or whatever then asking them to dance. It seems like the shields are set to maximum when girls are on the dance floor and you come out of no where and approach. I got similar lines as you, "I'm just dancing with friends." You can come across as a great guy, nicely dressed, really friendly...and still get shot down no problem on the dance floor. But you already learned quickly that you should talk to them around the club first then grind with them later.

I do have a question: How much did you drink at the club? I need to find a good balance because sometimes I go and I have like maybe 2 drinks and I don't feel anything, then sometimes I have like 8 drinks and it's too much (for me anyway.)

Also, what's your opening line usual to a group of girls? (more than one.) I don't have a problem talking to one girl, but more than that I'm not sure how to open or anything.

 

[h2o]

Mercutio: Thanks...well, like I mentioned in an above reply, she didn't actually fvck 3 guys this week. I made that up because she sounded like someone who would. I might actually fvck her next week because she called and expressed wanting to. I think she may make a reliable fvck-buddy.

green69: True...I guess you're right about calling her a b!tch, because I did see her enjoying herself with another guy later on...so I just need to remember that...not all girls or everyone will be into me, and that's cool.

Yeah, I definitely realized that dance floor approaches don't work unless the girl approaches me. I only do off-floor approaches now.

As for drinking, I think I had 5 or 6...which for me, it didn't start to really kick in until the very end of the night as we were leaving. For me, I guess I have a higher tolerance, so it takes a few to get tipsy. I'm definitely not one to have a drink by their side all night, but I could cut back a bit and wait for it to kick in instead of drinking more. Good point.

Group openings...I actually don't have any. That night, I didn't really do any larger sets than just 2. But that was a "group," but I basically held eye contact with the cute one the whole time...she was definitely giving me those 'take-me -away' eyes. I opened with "hey" and simply paid more attention to the not-so-hot one when making fluff talk. I think it's more about body language and eye contact/smiling than the actual opener. Then just be a man on the dance floor and up the kino. Because, I must have left an impression on her...she was giving me stares all night after that ...but I was an idiot and didn't take it to my advantage.

Usually, I'll just use something situational to joke off of...just like asking them why they were so far from everything, and joking about it. But maybe with more experience I'll come up with a more solid opener.
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Lastly...I want to mention that I talked to another guy from the local PUA "lair," who I've been discussing game with lately. He was telling about this "push/pull" technique, and I realized I used it unconciously that night at the club. I guess I have a bit natural game.

But anyway, he told me, that when you give a girl a good impression, and you get the feeling she has moderate to high IL, leave her for a bit. I did this with the Hb9 black girl, and she was staring at me all night...she was shy, and I feel like a complete idiot for not closing her.

Then, with the girl I pulled home, I left her a few times with my friend. I was going to go do more approaches and just talk to other guys, or use the restroom. I genuinely wanted my friend to have a good time, and left them to chat/dance or something. But, everytime I came back my friend would tell me that the girl would keep asking where I went and got worried. When I would come back, if she was dancing with another guy, she would practically rush over to me. So, technique or not, leaving a girl once or twice if she already has some IL, will make it pretty much rocket. Try that too, if you're at a club next time...I know I'll be keeping it in my arsenal.