"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FR: A potential plate. Interesting insights.

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A few weeks back i ended up making out with a coworker at a work related christmas event. We used to work in the same building, but now she has relocated so we work at different offices. I never really made any moves on her before, but always found her attractive. I've been able to demonstrate value in front of her by giving presentations to her department etc.

I would say she is a HB7. She is pretty tall (5'8), blonde and smart. She seems quality, but it's too soon to tell.

Last weekend a group of people from work, was having a pre-party in my apartment. She was one of the girls there. During the party she mentioned that she had a date that previous thursday and basically ripped the guys efforts to shreds. He had been self absorbed, inconsiderate and impolite. Makes me think it might have been one of you guys ;) Inside I wanted to defend the guy, but just said that he sounded awesome while giving her a cheeky smile. I told her she should give him a second chance, trying to falsely disqualify myself.
She got pretty tipsy and ended up spending the night at my place. I tried to close, but when i went for her ***** under her panties she removed my hand. I just laughed it off and went to grab her boobs instead and focused on building comfort. She has not told anyone at work that she spent the night, although people at my office were curious about what happened. I didn't say anything.

The following tuesday, she texted me. She asked if i wanted to grab some sushi and basically suggested my place. She would buy and bring the sushi. She managed to put in "No date" in the text.
I had soccer practice and had to reject the offer, but counter offered that i would like to take a raincheck, preferably this weekend. She agreed.

I wait until early friday morning, then i text her (translated):

Me: Good morning, sunshine. How does tomorrow at 7 sound?

HB7: Sounds good! I'm in. At your place? And i'll fix the food on my way? (Her second time offering to pay and bring the sushi)

Me: Yeah, we can stay at my place. I'd rather meet you there and order together. I wouldn't mind getting out of the house for a bit :)

HB7: I'm noticing that i'm just inviting myself;) Don't you trust me? :p No, that's fine. We can meet there.

Me: I don't want to risk you bringing me weird sushi :p I'd like to see the meny and have a Singha while we wait.

HB7: Okay, okay. I give in :)

Me: You better.

I don't confirm, and just show up the following day. I'm about 5 minutes late, and she is waiting when i arrive. Make 'em wait :) We order food, and i also order a beer to enjoy while we wait. She once again offers to pay. This restaurant is expensive and the check was for around 140 dollars. I decline and tell the waiter to split it in half. We pay and go to my place. I tell her she can buy me a drink another time since she seems so eager to pay.

I notice early that she didn't bring anything to drink. It's saturday evening. I ask her what she wants to drink and she says "just water". I can't accept that and just laugh it off. "No, i mean red or white wine? She says red and i open up a bottle, gives her a glass and leave the bottle on the table. I grab a beer for myself. I light some candles and we have dinner. Conversation is flowing. She is very easy to talk to. I try to ask interesting questions and have her talk about herself. I'm genuinely enjoying myself. I'm leading the interaction and my behaviour and body language is masculine.
I sometimes try to "cute" things up by sharing some softer sides of me, like how much i enjoy candle lights and that i'm more into it than chicks. I also comment on my teddy bear that i have in my bedroom. She noticed it the last time she was at my place. I made up some cute story. They always like that. It creates balance. It also gives the impression of a complex and diversified personality.

We talk about all kinds of subjects. We get into relationship talk. Both came out of long relationships in the past year. She still has contact with her ex, i dont'.

Something that i found very interesting was that she mentioned that my ex was really beautiful. She mentions this twice. My ex was a solid 9, which is waay better looking than me. I have debated whether to remove old photos from facebook, but came to the conclusion that whatever has happened in the past, still happened. So i don't bother to delete or remove anything. I'm unphased. I barely even use facebook. Judging by her reaction, it's massive social proof/preselection. And it also gives me the opportunity to tell her that beauty is common and not always enough. She might be beautiful, but she wasn't right for me. It's a better way to convey that mindset than to actively bring it up myself (e.g what do you have going for yourself besides your looks-line).

She gets several phone calls and texts during the evening, but ignores her phone completely. I like this. Good behavior.

After a few hours, I put on a movie. I haven't initiated any kino and we've been talking for about 3 hours. When i put on the movie, i tell her to come closer and pull her towards me. I kiss her for a few seconds and she rests her head on my chest as we watch the movie. We cuddle up and it's all very cosy.

After a while something interesting happens. While holding my arm around her, i turn my hand to glance at my watch. She immediately reacts to this and tells me that she knows it's late and that she will go home soon. I tell her that's not what i meant and that i would like it if she spent the night. She said that she felt like she just invited herself and that she couldn't know for sure if i meant it. One of the things that i have conveyed to her though is that i'm very straightforward and direct in the way i communicate. She has seen this at work, so i tell her, "Believe me, if i wanted you to leave, i would ask you to leave". She accepted this and we dropped the subject and continued watching the movie. Not the last time i will be looking at my watch while on a date :) Plant a seed of insecurity with the girl.

It's getting very late (4am) and we are both getting tired. At this point i'm too tired to escalate sexually and i focus on building deep rapport. I'm not trying to score tonight. My agenda changed. This is very unusual for me. I normally plow, but i'm trying a more relaxed, patient and indifferent approach lately. She asks if i have an extra toothbrush. I reply that i normally do, but there aren't any left. I say it with a smile, and she gives me the player-look. Cool. I ignore and tell her that she can borrow a toothbrush that i have barely used. She complies.

We get into bed, and starts kissing a bit. She asks if i brought a girl home the night before ( i was out with some friends). My inital reply was just "No". I thought, what a wussy response and said "But i had 3 girls over two nights ago. Best foursome in a while" Got a laugh and left the subject.

She keeps on her thong, her bra and a tank top. I always sleep in the nude. No exeption here. My bed, my rules. When we kiss, i almost change my mind about not trying to score, but manage to stick to the plan. We go to sleep. The next morning she is stroking me alot. She is scratching my back, my caresses my ass and is very physical. I touch her about half as much as she touches me. We keep building rapport. It's all very nice, but at this point i want her to leave. The gas pressure is building! Finally she leaves and I release epic fart:rock:

She texts me later that night and thanks me for a nice evening. All in all it was a great night and she may be gf material. She has good values and seems quality so far. She has a great body, although pretty small funbags. She is a health freak and works out in some form every day. She is very particular about what she eats, which is the only potential red flag i can see so far.

We will be attending the same party next friday, and this is where i have to make it more sexual. If i don't bang her soon, it will get awkward. Most my lays are ONS's so waiting this long is not my normal way. But it's definitely the deepest i've connected with a girl in a long time, so it may be something to this laidback-game.

I'm not really looking for anything serious now, because i'm focused on working on myself these days. I want to improve to be able to fix this part of my life forever. To know that i can always get a new, quality girl when and if a relationship ends. I don't feel like i'm there yet.

Definitely would like to bang this girl though and maybe keep her around for a while. If anyone is interested, i'll keep you posted. And feedback is always appreciated.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Not trying to bang her will pay dividends next time. Do it myself sometimes, it's the "gentlemen card" and is played with patience for a return on investment. Self respecting women love it and I often find when you do sleep with them they are far more relaxed and into it, because you've broken their ant-slvt defences.

She'll be ready for sex next time and you should indulge her (wait too long and the pan boils dry), start like she did in the morning, tickling, scratching etc. - how a woman plays tactility wise is a huge clue to what she herself likes. You've built rapport and trust and she sounds like a nice girl for something serious if you wished, bet it will be a great bang too. ;)
 

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Skalioppe said:
Not trying to bang her will pay dividends next time. Do it myself sometimes, it's the "gentlemen card" and is played with patience for a return on investment. Self respecting women love it and I often find when you do sleep with them they are far more relaxed and into it, because you've broken their ant-slvt defences.

She'll be ready for sex next time and you should indulge her (wait too long and the pan boils dry), start like she did in the morning, tickling, scratching etc. - how a woman plays tactility wise is a huge clue to what she herself likes. You've built rapport and trust and she sounds like a nice girl for something serious if you wished, bet it will be a great bang too. ;)
You are right. I'm not expecting ASD at this point. She denied me the first time, and i backed off. I'm assuming she was expecting me to go for it the second time she spent the night, and it might have surprised her when i didn't and went for comfort instead. If i can get her in my bed for the third time, she knows what will happen.

My plan is to give her a massage. It has yet to fail me. Start with her back, and move to her ass and thighs. Then eventually go for the *****rub. There is no resisting that :)
 
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LR: End of 3 month dry spell

So, i finally got to bang her last night. We were at the same party. Didn't really spend too much time with her all night. Early on we started talking and i told her it would be nice if she came home with me later. She didn't explicitly agree, but didn't object either. I'll take it as a silent accept. I tried to not be around her too much, but rather just bump into her occacionally.

She got pretty drunk and when everyone changed venues, she didn't get in at first try. She texted me that she was going home, but i told her to wait and go home with me instead. Her friend tried to ****block, but i held the frame and remained firm that she was coming with me. Back to my place, clothes come off, no LMR.

My sexual performance was average at best. Lost my erection after a while and didn't ***. I suck in bed lately. Either i *** too fast or get whiskey ****. Oh well. Doesn't matter, had sex.

She texted me after she left this morning telling me how hungover she was. I didn't reply. Plan on contacting her again later this week. Quality girl, but i don't have any romantic feelings at this point.
 
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