FR: 3 Lays, 3 Months

[nicksaiz65]

What's up guys. Wanted to give an update on what I've been up to for the last few months. I've been able to get a new lay once a month for the last 3 months via going out and cold approaching hard. Two of these lays were from cold approach, and one was from social circle.

Month 1 Lay:
This was a girl from a two set I met out with my roommate/wing. We talked to them upstairs in the rooftop of a Nashville bar: they seemed open to conversing and vibing with us. We invited them back but they seemed hesitant to come back with us at first. We thought the set was dead and basically had given up on it. So we walked out of the bar to hit the strip, but eventually they came back down and reopened us. We hung out with them for a bit at another bar, and then we were able to bring them both home with us to take shots after. We gave them the house tour, played some music, and vibed out. After that, we were able to isolate each girl to our separate rooms, and we each banged one of the girls.

Month 2 Lay:
I had some flyer miles so I booked a trip to Vegas. This was a pretty standard pull from the Omnia Club. I did a good amount of approaches in the club, but nothing was sticking. At best, I would get girls that would seem interested but then wouldn't pull back. Then, I approached a girl at the end of the night who also seemed interested. She was receptive to my physicality and made the conversation easy. I isolated her over to the bar. I usually don't buy girls drinks, but here I made an exception and took a shot with her. I then brought her to the dance floor, and after that, I invited her back to the BnB to drink some Trulys(since the club was closing anyways.) She agreed, and after smoking some weed outside, we went back. I gave her the house tour and I was able to close it from there.

Month 3 Lay:
This one was interesting: actually a coworker from my side hustle. I had a coworker who initially seemed a bit hostile to me, bad attitude and all, but over time she seemed like she was warming up to me. She seemed very hot and cold. I called her out directly on it, but she seemed to just dodge the question. So I just told her that I go out for drinks sometimes on the weekend and took her number. This Saturday, before I went out, she hit ME up and told me that she was home alone. I was able to go straight over to her house and then close it from there. I found out after the fact that she had kind of "broken up" with the guy that she was talking to. I'm aiming to keep this one around for a bit, since she lives here and isn't a tourist.

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My point? Get out there and approach some women!

I've been taking coaching from @BPH the past few months as well, and it's been great to get feedback and tips from him on these interactions.

I have other pulls that didn't close and failed interactions plus learnings from these last 3 months as well. Let me know if you are interested and I will share those too.

 

[SW15]

Month 2 Lay:
I had some flyer miles so I booked a trip to Vegas. This was a pretty standard pull from the Omnia Club.

Did you have a wingman for night game in Las Vegas? It's common for men to have wingmen in their home cities but not while traveling.

Month 3 Lay:
This one was interesting: actually a coworker from my side hustle. I had a coworker who initially seemed a bit hostile to me, bad attitude and all, but over time she seemed like she was warming up to me. She seemed very hot and cold. I called her out directly on it, but she seemed to just dodge the question. So I just told her that I go out for drinks sometimes on the weekend and took her number. This Saturday, before I went out, she hit ME up and told me that she was home alone. I was able to go straight over to her house and then close it from there. I found out after the fact that she had kind of "broken up" with the guy that she was talking to. I'm aiming to keep this one around for a bit, since she lives here and isn't a tourist.

While I don't recommend mixing your sex life with your employment in a primary job, it's possible to do in a secondary job. If someone lost income from a side hustle/secondary job, consequences would not be as bad. The white collar labor market is the worst it has been since the late 2000s/early 2010s. Losing a white collar job due to dating/sex would be devastating right now. Replacing a lower wage service sector job isn't a big deal.

How do you plan to continue this?

 

[nicksaiz65]

Did you have a wingman for night game in Las Vegas? It's common for men to have wingmen in their home cities but not while traveling.

I did. I met some friends down there.

While I don't recommend mixing your sex life with your employment in a primary job, it's possible to do in a secondary job. If someone lost income from a side hustle/secondary job, consequences would not be as bad. The white collar labor market is the worst it has been since the late 2000s/early 2010s. Losing a white collar job due to dating/sex would be devastating right now. Replacing a lower wage service sector job isn't a big deal.

How do you plan to continue this?

Primary job is a big no-no. Absolutely not in this horrible job market.

I’ll plan to continue going over for sex here & there while making it clear through my actions that I am NOT her boyfriend, nor will I be.

I’m only texting to setup sex. No dates, straight to the house only. After sex, I chat a few mins & leave.

 

[SW15]

I’ll plan to continue going over for sex here & there while making it clear through my actions that I am NOT her boyfriend, nor will I be.

I’m only texting to setup sex. No dates, straight to the house only. After sex, I chat a few mins & leave.

How much do you have to see her while working at your side hustle job?

Best case scenario, you could keep her in rotation for a few months like this. Since this job is a lower wage service sector job, that's a manageable scenario even if things exploded in a bad way.

Your ideas on phone use with her are good enough. I don't like text messaging in general. I think too many interactions are over reliant on messaging. Texting for logistics only sends the right message about a casual sex interaction.

 

[nicksaiz65]

How much do you have to see her while working at your side hustle job?

I usually don’t work more than 2 days a week. In terms of time? Meh, here & there. I’m usually cooking or doing something.

Best case scenario, you could keep her in rotation for a few months like this. Since this job is a lower wage service sector job, that's a manageable scenario even if things exploded in a bad way.

This is the ideal situation, have some pvssy on the back burner while I continue to go out.

The logistics for my side hustle are excellent, no commute. But like you said, I could just quit. It’s not devastating like a white collar position which takes months and months plus studying to get a new job.

My budget says that keeping a couple side hustle days is helpful.

Your ideas on phone use with her are good enough. I don't like text messaging in general. I think too many interactions are over reliant on messaging. Texting for logistics only sends the right message about a casual sex interaction.

I think that me going back & forth with her would be either a turnoff, or put me in the boyfriend frame.

 

[SW15]

I think that me going back & forth with her would be either a turnoff, or put me in the boyfriend frame.

That's a major risk and both outcomes would be undesirable.

I like using voice calling in interactions with women. It is better to use voice calling with women in the boyfriend-girlfriend frame.

Many younger women (born 1990 or later) don't like to use voice calling, even in a boyfriend-girlfriend interaction frame. Women born in the 1980s are more open to voice calling, but many of them prefer text messaging too.

Most of your interactions will be with women born in the late 1990s/early 2000s, so voice calling isn't a priority with those women, even with a boyfriend-girlfriend frame.

The logistics for my side hustle are excellent, no commute. But like you said, I could just quit. It’s not devastating like a white collar position which takes months and months plus studying to get a new job.

My budget says that keeping a couple side hustle days is helpful.

Your interaction management skills seem good here. Even when this interaction goes bad (as all do), you should still be able to keep a decent working situation at your side hustle. I wouldn't like seeing a former sex partner while working a secondary job, but that's not the worst possible outcome.

 

[nicksaiz65]

That's a major risk and both outcomes would be undesirable.

I like using voice calling in interactions with women. It is better to use voice calling with women in the boyfriend-girlfriend frame.

Yeah, I’m using texting here because this will not a be a relationship lol.

Many younger women (born 1990 or later) don't like to use voice calling, even in a boyfriend-girlfriend interaction frame. Women born in the 1980s are more open to voice calling, but many of them prefer text messaging too.

FaceTime is likely a close equivalent.

Your interaction management skills seem good here. Even when this interaction goes bad (as all do), you should still be able to keep a decent working situation at your side hustle. I wouldn't like seeing a former sex partner while working a secondary job, but that's not the worst possible outcome.

Ideally by the time it goes sour I’ve quit this job. But with the state of the white collar job market right now, we’ll see lol.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Always refreshing and heartening to read that fellas are out in the fresh air, not simply getting laid, but defying stereotypes about men

 

[DonJefe19]

Good stuff! The consistency is paying off!

 

[BPH]

Glad this is getting the attention it deserves, over all the recent complainey/article posts.

 

[Vanderdonck]

This is great stuff. Hopefully it motivates some others to just get out there. OP I'm sure not everything in your life is 100% (it never is for anyone) but you went out and took some swings and got some action.