"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drixsa

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Slick,

My goodness man! If this is the girl that you posted about months ago then I am taking this very personally right now.

From the way you described her months ago i thought (and I believe I wrote as well) that there was something "off" with the girl.

I'm really sorry man.

The most important question: have you gotten yourself checked out yet?

Also, how did you find out? How did she explain herself? Did you see it coming? Was the relationship digressing?

I haven't visited the site (especially since you stopped posting) in a while.

If you dont want to answer in the post please PM me.

All the best,

DrIx
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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OK, Resilient. Been busy, and away from the forum. Working hard and playing ... not quite so hard, but quite alright.

What I mean is to keep your ears and eyes open and such tendencies will be evident. While the most dangerous sociaopaths can put on a very cordial facade (think Hannibal Lecter), usually they do have a pretty creepy vibe. In some cases, the best thing to do is just steer clear. But the gal to which this post refers is not likely to have an old friend for dinner in the Hannibal Lecter sense: she's merely dishonest and unfaithful.

If you see those sort of tendencies in someone, don't expect faithfulness. If can manage a sufficient level of detatchment to have your fun with someone like that, and enjoy your own extracurrriular activities on the side, all the more power to you, have fun; if not, then bail.
 

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c- sorry for the hijack - and you're right some girls have deep inner issues that cloud their judgement. keep us updated.
 
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There is no need attach all of these sociopathic nametags to this girl. She is not a hannibal lecter, she is just a selfish girl with some deep issues who lacks reason and empathy in her relationship choices. Thanks for hijacking the thread...:rolleyes:
 

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Rollo T- if you're reading this thanks for helping me get my head screwed on back straight a few months ago,..
Just watching out for the sons I never had. Go forth, do well.

Sorry, I've been wrapped up in my work and my daughter's birthday lately.

Revenge

It's part of the human condition to desire what we think is justice. It's our nature to make comparissons, and in the instance of inequality, to see them corrected. And although we rarely consider the ultimate consequences of our actions, this isn't the reason we should eschew a desire for vengence. No, the thing we ought to consider is the overall efforts and resources necessary in order to exact revenge and weigh them against the things we might achieve for our own betterment by redirecting them to our own purposes. Even the efforts a trifling revenge would require are better spent with concerns of our own.

This might seem like a longwinded way of saying "Living well is the best revenge", and to a degree I think that's true, but beware the 'Well-lived' life spent in pursuit of revenge. Revenge should never be the motivation for success.

COLLOSUS: You do yourself credit by cutting the loses on your (dubious) investment here and moving on. Even the time and mental effort needed to consider some appropriate way of making her appreciate the errors of her ways are resources better spent on meeting new prospective women who will reciprocate. I could make the argument that by not 'punishing' her you are in effect reinforcing an undesired behavior (infidelity), but by removing your attention from her you deny her a primary reinforcement. It may be enough to simply explain that you know she's been involved with guy number 2 and you no longer want any contact with her. You'll of course have to be bulletproof in your resolve to cut off all contact with her, but leave her with the realization of the consequences of her actions.

Cheating

Whenever an instance of "cheating" is verified on this board, on the TV, in popular media, etc. this brings on a rush of chemically induced indignation. We crave confirmation of infidelity, but bear in mind 'cheating' is only cheating when a person renegs on their personal committment. The cheating doesn't occur in the act of infidelity, but in the breaking of that promise. That's where the dishonesty is.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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drixsa said:
Slick,

My goodness man! If this is the girl that you posted about months ago then I am taking this very personally right now.

From the way you described her months ago i thought (and I believe I wrote as well) that there was something "off" with the girl.

I'm really sorry man.

The most important question: have you gotten yourself checked out yet?

Also, how did you find out? How did she explain herself? Did you see it coming? Was the relationship digressing?

I haven't visited the site (especially since you stopped posting) in a while.

If you dont want to answer in the post please PM me.

All the best,

DrIx
Hey Drix,

Sorry but this post isn't about me. :) Rebecca and I are still going strong since last August or so.

I haven't been on the site lately due to some serious health issues. I'm trying to make some more appearances lately.

Talk to you soon.

Slick
 

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Hey Colossus, curious what you decided to do and more importantly, how are you holding up?

This might seem like a longwinded way of saying "Living well is the best revenge", and to a degree I think that's true, but beware the 'Well-lived' life spent in pursuit of revenge. Revenge should never be the motivation for success.
...perhaps another Iron Rule lurking about that paragraph?
 

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Slickster said:
Hey Drix,

Sorry but this post isn't about me. :) Rebecca and I are still going strong since last August or so.

I haven't been on the site lately due to some serious health issues. I'm trying to make some more appearances lately.

Talk to you soon.

Slick
PHEW!!!!

I feel so much better.

Let me know how you and Rebecca are doing.
 

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Colossus said:
Just prior to him leaving she said she loved him for the first time. A week earlier, she told me she loved me for the first time.
I am no longer stunned at the bald-faced lying and emotional wh0ring women do anymore. Women just know that they cannot beat men at anything naturally, so have to cheat to win. They are all dirty, opportunistic, fake POS. I've only come to expect it now.

THIS is why men of yore had to TAKE control and EXERT strong AUTHORITY and lay down strict social GUIDELINES to lead women. Left to their own devices, they are like Eve in Eden. Completely weak, deceptive and directionless.

TIME TO MAN-UP, FELLAS! DISMANTLE the ANTI-MALE MATRIARX!!!
 

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the best revenge is a good life without this chick for both you and this other guy.
its not his fault or your fault that she lied and decieved you both.
the two of you should move on with happy lives that dont involve her.
the two of you probally have alot in common and you might even have found a new buddy due to it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Funny how even hint of jealousy prompts people to dig up threads from 5 months ago. Ancient history.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Funny how even hint of jealousy prompts people to dig up threads from 5 months ago. Ancient history.
I didn't dig it up. Wayword did. I didnt' even look at the dates...just assumed it was recent. Sorry. :(
 

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Blusher said:
You're so wrapped up in fear and frustration, you seem incapable of understanding they're also human, just different gender.
I see you live in the EU, not the USA. BIG difference, buddy...you live in a completely different reality over there - so consider yourself LUCKY!
 

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This is an old thread. This issues had been discussed in detail.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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