"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Forbidden Fruit/Mission Impossible

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Anybody here had any success in macking women from an ex-girlfriends group of mates? I'm interested in playing a little game some time soon, but would like to know if anybody else has tried this, and if so, with what results (and what tactics)?

Thanks

Cyrano
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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We are civil, I suppose would be the best way of putting things. I don't see her, as I actually met her through a friend, and she lives a couple of hundred miles away. Also the fact that I am in the Navy doens't tend to help my being around too much (but fine in this case).

She wants to be friends, but I am rather more cool on the idea, not being overly satisfied with the treatment she dished out to me (got the boot just after new year, just about to go abroad for six months alone!) and the fact that she shacked up with a guy to weeks after canning me, who had been hanging around like a bad smell, but was "just a friend" (still can't believe I fell for the sucker punch!!) Also, don't tend to have exes as friends- bit too complicated generally speaking.

There you have it. Incidentally, her and her housemate are cool, but she has been heard to say that I was too good for her. Might mean nothing, but interesting nonetheless.

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No matter how you and your ex got along, you'd have to approach this like any other girl. The complications would potentially arise if your ex was bad-mouthing you to your room-mate. In this case your ex is actually acting as social proof. This is good because it makes your job easier by putting you at an advantage.

Pardon the corny nautical analogies, but I see nothing but smooth sailing on this one. Full steam ahead!
 

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Thanks CDB! Things always look a great deal more simple from somebody else's objective point of view. Sort of like not being able to see the wood for the trees!

Word on the street is that said girl now has a boyfriend, which changes things slightly (despite no longer being a complete AFC, I still refuse to steal another man's woman, unless she ends it first...strange morals but still.....). However, a lot of things can change in three weeks, and I do have several other irons in the fire at the moment.

Thanks

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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