"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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For the Mystery Method Doubters - Infield Video of Short Fat PUA Running MM Game

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Good episode of Keys to the VIP, a Canadian pickup show. Short, fat kid faces off against a tall, muscular ****y Latin guy. No contest, right?

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6016065/Keys_to_the_VIP_Fogle_7_Season3_4_4

The fat kid isolates a blonde hottie in the first challenge, gets solid attraction in the second round, and closes a cutie with big knockers in the third challenge. All within tight time constraints.

And all through tight Mystery Method-style game - openers over the shoulder, false time constraints, negs, cold reads, kino, takeaways, push-pull, compliance tests, winning over the whole group before isolating etc.

Clearly the fat kid's studied Game and is applying textbook Mystery Method game.

Fat guy with tight game > pretty boy with average game.


Other Clips:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6015674/Keys_to_the_VIP_Fogle_7_Season3_1_4

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6015843/Keys_to_the_VIP_Fogle_7_Season3_2_4

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6016011/Keys_to_the_VIP_Fogle_7_Season3_3_4
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Definitely Mystery Method. Look at all that kino. You can see that it works, but for me personally I would never be comfortable doing this. Because it's all canned, it's all a routine. Almost everything about it screams FAKE to me. You learn nothing about this guy other than the fact that he has studied Mystery Method.

It seems to me that if a good looking girl hangs around in clubs for very long, she's going to get these kind of approaches multiple times over, and learn to recognize them. How many times do you suppose they get shown these silly handshakes? She may not care, but it still seems fake to me.

The principles in Mystery Method are sound, and if they work for you and you like using it, by all means do. I would never feel comfortable with it myself, but you can learn a lot from it regardless.
 

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I asked my friend (female) and she said The "fat guy" was the more attractive of the two lol. Not sure what this was supposed to prove but the "prettyboy" is about a 6 according to her and too feminine acting. Granted, we only saw the intros so I cannot comment on the rest.
 

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zekko said:
Definitely Mystery Method. Look at all that kino. You can see that it works, but for me personally I would never be comfortable doing this. Because it's all canned, it's all a routine. Almost everything about it screams FAKE to me. You learn nothing about this guy other than the fact that he has studied Mystery Method.

It seems to me that if a good looking girl hangs around in clubs for very long, she's going to get these kind of approaches multiple times over, and learn to recognize them. How many times do you suppose they get shown these silly handshakes? She may not care, but it still seems fake to me.

The principles in Mystery Method are sound, and if they work for you and you like using it, by all means do. I would never feel comfortable with it myself, but you can learn a lot from it regardless.
I think the underlying principle is project a vibe congruent with the atmosphere.

Clubs = loud, chaotic, random

Mike basically comes up with a random crazy topic and rolls with it....has fun with the girls in the process and creates an instant rapport w/o boring them. It doesnt guarantee a lay....but its a step in the right direction.

If he lost some weight he would be a machine.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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zekko said:
It seems to me that if a good looking girl hangs around in clubs for very long, she's going to get these kind of approaches multiple times over, and learn to recognize them. How many times do you suppose they get shown these silly handshakes? She may not care, but it still seems fake to me.

It's not that common. Maybe circa 2006-2007 when the Mystery Method peaked, but it's been replaced by "natural game" (whatever that entails).

Yes, because we know of MM it all looks canned and rehearsed. But to the layman and the women he's gaming, he just looks like a fun, smooth guy.
 

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There are many better examples of game on that show than that guy - overall I wasn't overly impressed with him. Having fun and meeting girls sure, but I don't see him building up a whole lot of attraction....
 

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Wake up you virgin motherfcker. Reality tv is not reality. It's staged. Have you ever seen a girl in real life. Have you ever been to a club in real life. No because otherwise you would know that it doesn't go like this.

You are one of those guys that can't be saved. Have a nice lonely life.
 

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the "prettyboy" is about a 6 according to her and too feminine acting
Interesting, I thought Mike sounded feminine.
But it just goes to show that it can be hard for a guy sometimes to tell how another male is coming across to women. "Oh, you think HE'S the good looking one? Really?". We can write a guy off as no competition while a woman might find him attractive.

Mike basically comes up with a random crazy topic and rolls with it
Well, that's the thing, nothing about that whole interaction seemed random at all to me, it's just a performance.

Yes, because we know of MM it all looks canned and rehearsed. But to the layman and the women he's gaming, he just looks like a fun, smooth guy.
Yeah, like I said, you can see that it works. It's just the fact that I know it's all canned that bugs me.
It really reminds me of a magic trick, MM always had. Once you know how a trick works you can't really ever look at it the same way again. And I don't think it's a coincidence that Mystery was a magician.
 

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J. Darko said:
Wake up you virgin motherfcker. Reality tv is not reality. It's staged. Have you ever seen a girl in real life. Have you ever been to a club in real life. No because otherwise you would know that it doesn't go like this.

You are one of those guys that can't be saved. Have a nice lonely life.
Easy there, sport. KTVIP is legit.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mystery method works no question but the show is probably fake. The point is that you should test out all these methods and once you do you will naturally come up with a style that suits you.

I'm just not going to be learning magic tricks to try to pull some b|tch, but I do use negs, false time constraints, kino and a whole bunch of other tactics with every woman I meet.

I don't follow mystery method or any other method step by step but I use the tactics in the many methods I learned to create attraction and try to set myself apart from being just another nice guy.
 

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I look for eye contact, open with hello, and then just flow. I rely on flow and not some nerdy a1 plus 3b crap. I flirt and get the number then give them the bone. It's that simple. This is the reason so many ppl dnt get laid on here they overcomplicated the simple sh!t getting women is easy u don't need to waste$ on some silly ass system. Just look for females attracted to you.
 

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What the hell is this with ppl trying to bend what they see to suit their notions, how was that guy short? and fat? sure he wasnt muscular but was chubby at best. The major problem with his looks was that he had a nice guy aura all over him.

Since when short and fat stopped meaning Danny de Vito and started to mean regular guys?
 

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joe henny said:
I look for eye contact, open with hello, and then just flow. I rely on flow and not some nerdy a1 plus 3b crap. I flirt and get the number then give them the bone. It's that simple. This is the reason so many ppl dnt get laid on here they overcomplicated the simple sh!t getting women is easy u don't need to waste$ on some silly ass system. Just look for females attracted to you.
Good job, buddy. You're a natural. Most guys here aren't.
 

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I wouldn't be caught dead trying this PUA crap
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Honestly, dude seems gay as fvck. I dont know how women see it but thats how it looks to me. he's not fat, hes just not ripped or toned. I'm fatter than this guy.
 

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Wow...fvcking pathetic. This thread makes me want to kill myself as well.
 

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Where's the rapport? No wonder people get so many flakes.
Getting the number is not closing.
 

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jtlancer said:
Where's the rapport? No wonder people get so many flakes.
Getting the number is not closing.
The players only have 5 minutes to get the number. That's the challenging aspect of the show.
 

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joe henny said:
I look for eye contact, open with hello, and then just flow. I rely on flow and not some nerdy a1 plus 3b crap. I flirt and get the number then give them the bone. It's that simple. This is the reason so many ppl dnt get laid on here they overcomplicated the simple sh!t getting women is easy u don't need to waste$ on some silly ass system. Just look for females attracted to you.
Wrong. whatyou are doing infact is using MM or a variant of it. Just you arent aware of it. Same way as many guitar players who claim to not know theory, yet subconsciously still use it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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