"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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For the LAST time. Your looks WON'T matter!

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For the LAST time. Your looks WON'T matter!





It doesn't matter if you are good looking, average looking, ugly looking, have game etc...







If you continuously sit around here breaking the fart cherry on your new computer chair and don't go out and meet people.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Naughty Ninja said:
For the LAST time. Your looks WON'T matter!





It doesn't matter if you are good looking, average looking, ugly looking, have game etc...







If you continuously sit around here breaking the fart cherry on your new computer chair and don't go out and meet people.

Damn Right...
You made me kinda laugh.
 

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To clarify.

I do think that looks matter a great deal (face, body, clothes, style, handsomeness - the way you wear your clothes. Because the same clothes could have a different effect if wore by different people- ...)

BUT self-confidence, magnetism, charisma, sexualness and brains matter even more.

I said "damn right" to the 'joke' (the punch-line) made by the OP.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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looks do matter, I have lived both ways, a fat slob to a guy girls think is hot and give bedroom eyes everywhere I go, you can improve yourself no matter what, anything less is excuses
 

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Looks matter!!

And I am one good lucking guy...I have been a PUA for the past couple of years. And tell you what, the first of the very few things that girl tells me is that I am quite cute.

Sometimes, I wonder whether it is my GAME or my LOOKS that's getting results from women. Yet I am highly skilled at this point, and I know how to transition from attraction to rapport to sex.

Still, I feel that looks play a HUGE role in my game.

In short, my long experience (which you can really count on) say looks (especially grooming) matter.
 

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schttrj said:
Looks matter!!

And I am one good lucking guy...I have been a PUA for the past couple of years. And tell you what, the first of the very few things that girl tells me is that I am quite cute.

Sometimes, I wonder whether it is my GAME or my LOOKS that's getting results from women. Yet I am highly skilled at this point, and I know how to transition from attraction to rapport to sex.

Still, I feel that looks play a HUGE role in my game.

In short, my long experience (which you can really count on) say looks (especially grooming) matter.
I think the main problem is a lot of guys don't want to put the effort in to look good. And I'm not talking just the gym. there's getting good clothing, getting a good haircut, making your skin feel nice (moisturize people, sounds gay but trust me, you will look and smell better), keeping your facial hair in check, etc.

Also, isn't trying to look good part of being a Don Juan. From my understand, a Don Juan isn't just focused on girls, he is focused on improving his life in general and that means your physical appearance as well.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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BwanaKuu said:
I think the main problem is a lot of guys don't want to put the effort in to look good. And I'm not talking just the gym. there's getting good clothing, getting a good haircut, making your skin feel nice (moisturize people, sounds gay but trust me, you will look and smell better), keeping your facial hair in check, etc.

Also, isn't trying to look good part of being a Don Juan. From my understand, a Don Juan isn't just focused on girls, he is focused on improving his life in general and that means your physical appearance as well.
Tell you what, they say the proverbial Don Juan (someone called Guisippe Giovanni or something like that) was really ugly...He was balding, short and fat! But Casanova...dressed pretty well. He was Italian btw.
 

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The first thing a woman notices is how you look. There is no denying that. Women are also more shallow then men when it comes to looks.

A man's personality can either increase or decrease his attractiveness to a woman.

Men who look good are basically pre-approved and don't have to work as hard as men who don't look that good.
 

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Maxtro said:
The first thing a woman notices is how you look. There is no denying that. Women are also more shallow then men when it comes to looks.

A man's personality can either increase or decrease his attractiveness to a woman.

Men who look good are basically pre-approved and don't have to work as hard as men who don't look that good.
This is spot on. Yeah, having a good personality and strong social skills are a bonus, but, initially, you MUST meet or exceed her minimum looks requirements. If you don't, she will blow you out very quickly and you won't have a chance to demonstrate your personality or run some creepy PUA routines. If she isn't attracted to you looks, the most you can hope for is to DELAY the inevitable rejection by entertaining her.

This is the reason for the whole "dancing monkey" thing. You approach a girl that is not attracted to you, but she sticks around because you are entertaining her. Once your entertainment ends, she will take off.

I've experienced both sides of that. I approached a group of girls and had them laughing uncontrollably, like ready to pee their pants. They LOVED the entertainment, but walked away seconds after the conversation died down. They weren't attracted to my looks, and no amount of humor/personality could change that.

On the other hand, when I've approached women that WERE attracted to me, I've had conversations that were dry and boring as f*ck. Despite my personality or "game" not being "on," I've pulled one night stands with those girls. They were already attracted. They didn't care what I said or how interesting or boring I was. (As a side note, if she is attracted to you, she will find the most boring sh*t you say entertaining anyway.) It was just a formality to them i.e. a way to waste a half hour before we could leave together.

Anyway, getting back to the OP's point, yes he is still correct. No matter what your looks, you still need to get out there to try. I don't mean try to game someone who isn't into your looks. It's to try to find and properly game a girl that is into you.
 

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Who doesn't enjoy a feel-good thread? Next up: education doesn't matter when you apply for a job. No matter how educated the other applicants are. All you need is self-confidence. Surely the guys with the education won't have that, so you're ahead.
 
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