"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
For men who say, "I can't figure out women"
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
I think the message here is to not try and figure how a women thinks by what she says.
We always see these posts asking about something a women said and for a translation - most of the time what they say has nothing to do with they do...
She is
a) interested
or
b) not interested
The moment you waste time thinking about the needs and wants of women is the moment you become a chump.
A man that claims he knows how to please women is also a chump. The fact is every man can only attract so many women. There will always be a woman that likes you, but that will only happen if you focus on being a man. And that means staying focused on staying true to who you are.
In other words, if you try to be someone else or act against the way that you naturally feel, women that you do attract won't be interested in you. They will be interested in the act that you put forth. AFCs do this all the time by trying to act like nurturing women. Women are not attracted to men that act like women. They might say that they are but such notions are only the true on TV.
This is why it is so important to next women who don't show interest.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
this is very true.
A man that needs a translation is a chump because he is focused on trying to understand a woman.
There is nothing to understand. there is nothing to worry about. She either makes you feel like a man ( her hero) by showing interest or she is just a waste of your time.
Men - leave the nurturing to the Women.
I agree with you completely. We don't need to understand women. I'd go further and say that many people here are way too focused on "what women like" to the point that they are supplicating worse than the AFC who showers them in gifts. These men have devoted all of their time, energy, and creative thought to pleasing women.
I don't even think it's necessary to know if she's interested or not. If I like a girl, I'm going to hit on her. Either she is receptive or non receptive. If she doesn't outright reject me the first time, maybe I'll give it a second shot. When it becomes too much of a hassle, I stop trying.
The focus is on me. What do I want? Do I want her to go out with me? Then I am going to get her to do it. End of story. If she doesn't, oh well.
I've been so free since I stopped checking for signs of interest. It's a waste of time anyway, as I've learned, since SOME GIRLS WONT EVEN SHOW ANY 'SIGNS OF INTEREST' I feel bad for the guy who has ever given up on a woman because she was too subtle with her signals.
My only test for interest is the kiss test. If she kisses me, she must like me. Otherwise, it's probably time for me to move on.
That doesn't mean that you have to be stupid about them though! I went to a restaraunt with some friends the other day, and the hostess was smoking hot. After we sat down, she came to our table just to flirt with us - but I noticed her touching my friend on his arm as he left. Instantly I knew that she was digging him, so as soon as she walked away I casually mentioned to him "I think she likes you" Everybody thought I was wrong, because they hadn't trained themselves to see these things the way I have. Well, she ended up at that friends apartment that night. I was definitely not wrong.
Good tip, 00Kevin. I like the way you think.
BrotherAP
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
then get her deeply attached to you
I liked alot of what you said, but the only thing I would like to warn about is kissing.
Even if a girl kisses you that doesn't mean that she makes you feel like a man or is all that interested.
Take for example a girl friend that I once had. Sure I used to kiss her and she liked to kiss, but that didn't stop her from showing disrespect.
I'm just trying to warn people out there not to judge a woman on what she says or even by what she does. Sometimes women will do things just for the sake of it.
You will only know if a woman is good for you when things are totally f-ucking easy.
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You can't find logic from illogical people.
Meanwhile, read Allen Thompson's work. This will give you an answer as to why you should quit over-thinking everything:
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/kiss.htm
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
). But what do you have to do then, to know if she really likes you if you don't look after the signals? Just take action by yourself with the risc of a slap in your face?
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To be successful in sales, you have to first have a product or solution that solves a problem or big need in the market, than get out in the field.
Same with women.
Women need a MAN. Period. A lot of people are willing to go out in the field, but if you dont fulfill the need, you wont get the sale. Fulfill the need, be a man, and you wont run out of sales(pvssy).
-PVSSYEATER
If after reading the ******** article in the bible, someone still has the cheek to ask "what does it mean when _...?", someone should just give them a dagger and be like "dude, please, spare us the trouble".
And even at that, I don't think ******** is meant to be used to analyze everything they say, but just a few cliche phrases, which came to be cliches because of their widespread use.
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